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TheJaceX
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Worst Manga:
Fire Punch Lmao, someone doesn't like movies. Need a bit more Star Wars in their life. |
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Aquasakura
 Posts: 700 Location: Chesterfield, Virginia, U.S.A |
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I am curious to know what it is about Fruits Basket Another by Natsuki Takaya that it gets lumped in the word manga for any age category, and I am not surprise This Corner of the World by Fumiyo Kouno is listed as being unappreciated? It looks to be a title that would be underrated in the United States.
On another note it's nice to see Laid Back Camp by Afro as being one of the best manga, and it is a good read for teen fiction. Also, I am on board with Witch Hat Atelier by Kamome SHIRAHAMA as being one of the most anticipated manga to be publish in the U.S Still I would like to know what why the manga would chosen for these categories instead of just seeing a list.[/i][/i] |
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Jonny Mendes
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Thank you for the clarification. I was just curious because some of them like Detective Conan are really baffling and made me believe that the person that chose the groupings didn't read all the manga but looks like that was the difference of perception. Still some of the groupings where a little strange. Once again i am surprised of differences of what is appropriate for age groups between US and Japan and even Europe. Difference of cultures are really a interesting thing. Is always great to debate that in this forums. |
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Aquasakura
Posts: 700 Location: Chesterfield, Virginia, U.S.A |
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It can be an interesting topic to discuss when I think about it. Still for me personally I would consider both Detective Conan and Laid Back Camp to be stories for teens (or YA as the novel industry likes to refer to those books). In the case for Laid Back Camp the reason I thought of the story as being for teens despite it being publish for those who are either late in the adolescent stage of young adults was because it stars teens who are still in high school as appose to people late in their adolescent who have left high school. |
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Jonny Mendes
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Laid Back Camp can be consider for Young adult more because of the themes than the age of the characters. This slice of life/slow paced comedy manga are usually marketing for young adults in Japan. If you look at manga magazines, most slice of life/slow paced comedy manga are published in seinen magazines. For example Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid are also in a seinen magazine. |
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Aquasakura
Posts: 700 Location: Chesterfield, Virginia, U.S.A |
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Yes! You are right, Johnny. There is more to Laid Back camp being consider a YA story other then the ages of the protagonist and main character. I didn't know how I could express the themes of the story at the time so I left it at just the story starring people who are in their adolescents. However when I think about it I could have just left it at both the age of the characters and the themes the story shares. Also, I never thought that a lot of slice of life stories were publish under manga targeting late teens and young adults, but it makes perfect since given the nature of the genre. |
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Ashen Phoenix
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Can anyone explain why Fruits Basket Another and Baccano! were ranked among the worst titles? They're both series I adore as anime and particularly in Baccano!'s case I've been looking forward to reading more of it. |
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Dian Z
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The category of Worst manga for Anyone, Any Age makes me wonder if there's a mistake. Honestly, sounds to me like a rather immature take on this kind of lists, which otherwise are great choices on other categories.
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Jose Cruz
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I guess it is mainly the western habit of associating the age of the characters (or their apparent age in the case of Land of the Lustrous) to the age of the intended audience. This western habit is particularly problematic when one looks at manga since its very common in adult manga to feature children and teenager protagonists. Well, it is now not uncommon in Western Literature and Film to feature children protagonists in works aimed at adults either but these stereotypes still persist in the minds of a lot of westerners. Yuru Camp is obviously a seinen manga made for men who are interested in camping but since it's characters are teenager girls they think the audience for it are teenager girls. Apparently even after one and a half decade of moe shows many western anime fans still haven't understood that currently slice of life anime shows featuring teenager girls as main characters are more often than not aimed at an adult male audience. Although this theory cannot explain why Conan and Silver Spoon were categorized as adult. I guess it is because they represent genres that might appeal more for older people. Silver Spoon's take on rural life might appeal more to old Americans who often lived in rural areas when they were younger while Conan's genre of detective stories are a well worn genre in Western fiction and should appeal to older readers in that sense. While the moe aspects of Yuru Camp will mainly appeal to younger people more used to the contemporary sensibilities of Japanese visual culture. |
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EducatedRuffian
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Star Wars was the reason I dropped it lol. |
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tasogarenootome
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To the people wondering about why Laid-Back Camp and Case Closed are listed where they are, it likely has nothing to do with their target demographics in Japan and everything to do with target demographics stateside, since they’ve listed the US publisher in the article. LBC/Yuru Camp runs in a seinen magazine, but is pretty much harmless in terms of objectionable content, unless you’re afraid it might entice someone to go camping. Plus, younger kids tend to like reading about characters a little older than themselves, so I think it would be good for a middle schooler who likes the outdoors.
Case Closed, on the other hand, is targetted at younger readers, but considering the violent and bizarre murders that often take place, cannot be easily marketed to small kids stateside. |
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Princess_Irene
ANN Reviewer
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[quote="Jose Cruz"]
This is precisely it, and it's problematic in general. Titles like The Book Thief were originally shelved in middle grade because of the age of the protagonist even though that is not a children's book. The Sweetness at the Bottom of the Pie is another example. My library shelves all graphic novels together, but others I've been to have all the manga in the teen section, regardless of content. |
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Aquasakura
Posts: 700 Location: Chesterfield, Virginia, U.S.A |
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I don't see how this is a problem really, or more like I don't feel like that is a problem. I don't think this mindset is going to change anytime soon just because a half a decade now we have been slice of life anime starring people in their adolescent stages appearing on television, because even though we are familiar with those shows and their attended target demography, the wider population is not aware. Plus is this really a tendency for people to have this mindset in the Western hemisphere, or are you just talking the U.S?
That is so true, and I see this tendency with kids who like to watch the Marvel Cinematic Universe despite ratings saying otherwise. I also agree Laid Back Camp would be an excellent manga to share with children who are attending middle school.  If I had a c child or children I would not mind sharing this manga with them.
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RitsuLaw
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I'm just glad to see Land of the Lustrous up there, and also, I Hear the Sunspot is indeed an underappreciated gem, I wish it had at least a ova.
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Alan45
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Here in the forums we are prohibited from posting lists without explanation of why the items are on the list.
If I didn't already understand why, these lists would explain that rule, especially the "worst" list. |
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