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CastMember1991
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Just being optimistic. If you ask me, I think it will probably be weeks, not months. |
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Sparvid
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IOC's John Coates says Tokyo Games not contingent on Covid-19 vaccine
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TarsTarkas
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Nothing is dependent on a vaccine. There is the possibility that they will never find a vaccine, but will devise various treatment options. There is the possibility, that it will be like the flu, with new strains coming out each year, or even mutations.
The Olympics will happen in 2021, because if they don't it will mean that something truly bad has happened. Such as a global economic collapse, a very severe recession, and or both, a massive viral resurgence that beats everything from this year. The quarantines and stay at home orders were to only buy time for hospitals to handle the load and work on a vaccine and/or treatments. But you can't shut the world down forever, or even a year. Unless you are actively trying for starvation and economical/societal collapse. |
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Яeverse
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i would think we couod. If we had automated many of the front line typically low wage jobs and moved those workers to technician status (to monitor the automatons) sooner, then warehouse workers, fast food and grocery, trucking and the like could continue with little risk of contracting disease. hold ups in american food supply has only been at the factory level not the farms suggesting automation would have prevented the recent uptick in disesse there sake atbgrocery story. if it was all self checkout decreased disease. this could have been the new normal |
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BadNewsBlues
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Which is interesting as I never said anything about not being interested or invested in the Olympics for one, two it’s a fact that the Olympics are a money wasters for the hosting cities. Those stadiums get built using money that’s never going to be made back all to build stadiums that will be torn sit unused. Even better cities have to bid using actual money to even get the chance for their city host the Olympics in addition to all the money they’ll already have to spend hiring consultants, planners, etc https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/092416/what-economic-impact-hosting-olympics.asp |
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TarsTarkas
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The loss of jobs because of stay at home orders, means no money is coming in, that is no money for food, bills, and plenty of other stuff. The money the government gives, is not enough, nor can it be sustainable over a long period of time. The government cannot just give money out for that long of a time. Doesn't really matter if the meat processing plants are still running. If you have no money, you can't buy food. And as we have seen the miles long lines for free food, they can't meet the demand for those without. The longer everything remains shut down, the more people lose their jobs, because even with generous loans, many businesses just can't be in standby mode for long periods of time. (Apple could with their billions in savings). Job losses will keep increasing as this goes on. More people for the food lines. |
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nargun
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Actually the government can in this situation just give out money indefinitely, tarkas. Or more or less: there are issues with deferred maintenance and equivalent but it's months away or longer.
What there isn't, though, is issues with inflation. Normally, yes, "the government can just give money" runs into real (ie, not money but stuff-you-buy-with-money) resource limits (more money same stuff -> inflation). But in this case the whole point is to reduce consumption, particularly hours worked. That would lead to deflation, and deflation is really really bad. So you inject the inflationary money to counteract that, and it balances like a see-saw. If you balance it carefully you can keep it up for a very long time. Not forever -- social structures need maintenance and exercise -- but multiple months or a few years with little degredation at the end of it. I mean, if you know what you're doing. If you don't know how to do something thenvyou can't do the thing, and some people -- even some people with high public profiles -- have difficulty telling the difference between "I can't do the thing" and "noone can do the thing". (If your newsmedia isn't telling you this you need better newsmedia) |
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TarsTarkas
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Maybe in isolation that might work. But we are not isolated, and there are plenty of external factors that can effect us. History has plenty of examples of what can happen. Your currency being devauled and your citizens burning their cash money for fire fuel because it is not worth anything anymore. 30 million Americans have applied for unemployment, because of the government's actions. That's 30 million people and their families for the food lines. There is no way this is sustainable. Personally, for me, common sense says nothing is free, and you can't keep tossing out free money indefinitely without bad things happening down the line.
Nor can you keep businesses shuttered for long periods of time, and expect them to survive. Each business is different and some may be able to start back up without too much difficulty, but others may have other problems. Workers may have taken early retirement, workers may have moved on to other jobs, others may have gotten used to not going to work, and others may have died from the virus. Some factories may have laid fallow for too long and require intensive work to bring back on line, and some may require other sectors to come up first before they are even able to. This is just a small sample of issues that might be felt. |
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