Forum - View topicThe Newspeak and Twisted History of Legend of the Galactic Heroes
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Drahksenzu
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Also reminds of The Lost Fleet series a guy (Captain John Geary) who was in a sort of stasis for a 100 years is revived. During his frozen time the war has devolved into lousy stupid tactics and lazy stupid officers. He brings new but old tactics to the field and starts to dominate the enemy fleets by doing things they have never seen before. While at the same time dealing with jealous officers who try to sabotage him even though he is keeping them all alive. Leading to one of my favorite lines ever in a novel "Numos is so dense that I'm surprised he doesn't have his own event horizon." But overall the main character Captain John Geary is totally a mary sue and things go too well over many many books...but I still found the series an enjoyable read. I guess these would fit into a sci-fi sub genre for sure with a lot of the same trappings both good and bad. I still need to try out the Honor Harrington series one of these days. |
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Sven Viking
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Also Reinhard’s plan would have failed if he’d been a bit slower or had spent any time mopping up the defeated enemy forces in the first group. While admittedly stupid and complacent, the Alliance commander’s actions would have been successful if not for a small but important underestimation of the enemy’s speed and efficiency.
A lot of things in LotGH battles are admittedly parallels to real naval or land tactics or strategies that don’t always apply perfectly to space, though, and imho their space combat system is probably best taken as stylised rather than really hard sci-fi. |
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Alan45
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Historically speaking, generals doing stupid things because they are following "standard" tactics and "we have always done it that way" has been fairly common. Also generals who grew old in service and are trying to fight the last war even when the situation is different is also common. Being able to predict this and to take advantage of different circumstances has given young commanders an edge frequently. Stupid generals seems to be more the norm than not.
My complaint, which especially applies to the first battle of the series is that the author forgot that they were in space. Surrounding an enemy on three of four sides works in a land battle. In space where you have six sides it doesn't work that well. They forgot there is also up and down. I can see that this may have been difficult to show in the anime which is displayed on a 2d screen, but it is in the source novel where it could be left to the imagination. The battles are just staging for the political fights and complaints about the action do not stop the overall work from being excellent. |
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meiam
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Like I said, I don't think they "pollute" the rest of the show, but they take sooooooooo much time (at least in the remake, maybe the original/novel they happen much faster). No matter how great the rest is, if I'm bored 70% of the time watching the show I'm gonna stop watching. Maybe it's realistic that one side is always going all out on the stupidity, but it does not make for fun TV. It'd be like watching an amateur play against a grand master at chess, except dragged out for 1.5 hours with long shot of the grand master making big speech and some underling fanning over him. |
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Sven Viking
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While they try to have some sci-fi excuses involving solar winds etc. to partially explain some of it, things playing out more like 2D naval or land battles is pretty common and something you just need to accept as a quirk of the setting, basically, like Star Wars’ atmospheric flight dynamics in space for example. |
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Zeino
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LotGH isn't objective in it's viewpoint though. Which side ultimately comes off the better at the end of the series? The Galactic Empire. Yoshiki Tanaka is just very subtle in delivering his ideals that the best form of government is an enlightened despot surrounded by wise and able subordinates by always allowing the Free Plants Planet to have the worst problems that just happen to be nearly always true for democracies to give it enough plausible deniability in looking "objective". But then Fascism has always been good at highlighting the flaws and hypocrisies of democracy. |
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Sven Viking
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To me it always seemed more like the author was pretty solidly on Yang’s side politically, to the point where Yang seemed to be standing in as his mouthpiece at times in the books.
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Ruri Lee
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I kinda wished they had adapted Fujisaki Ryu's remake of Galactic Heroes over what we got in 2018.
He made a lot of changes that melded Gaiden together with the main series, and made some action scenes more exciting. |
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thecritter
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As for the soundtrack, it was all classical orchestral music that was in the public domain. No composer's fees, reasonably recognizable, and no royalties to pay beyond licensing the performances from the orchestral recordings. God, scoring 110 episodes would be a nightmare, but using the fanfare from the Mahler 3rd Symphony over and over is easy.
And with the new remake, they've spent so much time on the visuals that the pacing sometimes turns to crap. Timing is as essential as art and character design, and they often seem to forget that. After reading the novels, I appreciate the first animated version even more. They really did a good job staying close to the novels, much better than most modern adaptations. Of course, I was reading an English translation, but still . . . |
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