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Beatdigga
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Bebop is a great show, but its expiration date was at least six years ago. Same with Ghost. Despite that, there's still a small contingent of fans on the official Adult Swim message boards that screams bloody murder at the idea of even attempting to remove them, going so far as to say the DVD's aren't an acceptable alternative. And that is just eyerolling. 
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RyanSaotome
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I'm of the belief that the only way this new Toonami is going to succeed is if they focus on only premiers. None of this constant reruns of old shows thing... and when shows are finished, replace them with new shows.
So basically, only thing that should be held over from the old block is Bleach since it has new episodes every week. |
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Soundmonkey44
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Yeah odds are GITS will be replaced once it finishes its current run. As for Bebop, I agree it needs to take a break, but since its AS baby, I fear it never will, lol. But hey, heres hoping.
@Beat: Theres really people that say the DVD set isn't an acceptable alternative? Good lord, thats just...sad. But hey [Adult Swim] boards seems to be full of blithering man children anyway so I guess thats to be expected. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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They can play them once at the end of the second cycle, but the block still needs to be headlined by new shows. |
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agila61
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I would hope they keep the 12:30am slot for first airings. Fingers crossed, of course, that Tiger & Bunny follows Deadman Wonderland. Conveniently, Cowboy Bebop is 11 to go, and GitS:SAC 2nd Gig is 9 to go, so if they want, they can do a double-play of the last two Cowboy Bebop episodes in 10 weeks time, and have a clean slate then in what could be a 1hr Anime Classics slot. |
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RyanSaotome
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If this iteration of Toonami is a success, and they are willing to go with a longer series, I think that Fairy Tail would be a better thing to replace Deadman Wonderland. They can have the battle shonen hour earlier on before the younger fans have to go to bed, and then have the more mature stuff between 1-3.
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notazaku
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They'll still need reruns to fill out the latter half of the schedule (1:30-3 AM) since I doubt they'll be premiering new content there. The question is what will they rerun? Will it be reruns of newer shows once they finish their initial airing or will they keep their old standbys like Bebop or perhaps some combination of the two? They need to fill that air with something. |
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Shaterri
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I'm with Farix in being a bit underwhelmed. There's action, and sure, there's violence, but I think the big difference between even something like Cowboy Bebop and something like Deadman Wonderland (or at least the vibe it's giving in the first episode) is the mean-spiritedness of the latter. Even with a show like Drrr!, things can be bleak and it's got a remarkably cynical view of humanity, but there's a sense of wonder and love for the work behind it all. Deadman Wonderland just felt not just gratuitous, but pointlessly gratuitous, to me. Even the bumpers seemed ruder than I remember (though that may be rose-colored glasses applied to the past).
And I have to say I'm tired of the chicken-and-egg teasing of 'just watch the block and you'll get better shows!' Watching may be a vote for 'I hope you'll do good stuff in future', but it's also still an implicit stamp of approval on what they're doing right now, and I'm not sure based on what I've seen so far that they've earned that stamp. |
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Soundmonkey44
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Personally I think they should wait till they get more time-slots to get the more cartoony long running shonen, things like Fairy Tail & One Piece would be better to air at 9PM then at midnight, and it would be rather jarring to see such a serious show as Deadman be replaced with Something like FT. For now I think they should stick with shorter, more serious series. Then later one when the ratings and money for the block are more stable, and when/if they get more time-slots for Toonami they can get Stuff Like Fairy Tail, & One Piece. Well, thats my 2-cents anywo. Also@ Shaterri: It may sound chicken & the egg to you, but thats the reality of things. And just because you may not care for the new shows they got doesn't mean others don't I myself love Casshern Sins and am enjoying Deadman so far. |
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chrisb
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I would like to see some more "fun" shows on the block. DBZ, Sailor Moon, and Outlaw Star all had a sense of adventure. I kind of miss that with these new shows since they are all too serious. I am in love with Casshern Sins though. I wouldn't mind a couple of series that are dark as long as they have style. It would be great to see Red Garden on the block, but that may not be actiony enough.
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Soundmonkey44
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I think, and note this is just my take. That Williams Street may be going for more serious action series this time around, since on top of Toonami being on [Adult Swim] now, they have comedy on most of the time, so maybe they find shows like Casshern & Deadman a good way to balance that out. But yeah I do agree that once the block has had time to grow and become more secure more light hearted fair would be nice. I myself would still love to see Panty & Stocking on down the line.
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agila61
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FMA:Brotherhood holds down 1:30am through to the end of this year, so its 2am-3am to fill in the immediate future. It has to be cheap. And has to be at least the ratings draw that Cowboy Bebop / GitsS would be. I know what shows I would like, but I have not idea what old anime would be a ratings draw in the mens-18-24 demographic. |
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Sunday Silence
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Yeah, those "fans" need a good bite from a Corgi to get them straight. Simply put, if Toonami is to survive, CB need to CYA!! I agree that CB is one of the benchmark anime out there, but give the damn show a rest already. Why such a series has garnered such praise is beyond me now. EVERYONE DIES AT THE END, PHYSICALLY AND METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING, THE END!! |
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The Abided
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DeMarco said a little while ago in a tweet that the two series they were looking into, but holding off on for financial reasons, were Fairy Tale and Inuyasha: Final Act. If Toonami is a success, they will probably bring both of those series in, but in case it isn't then they don't want to make a financial commitment to them yet. Also, I doubt they will just show DW and CS once, they will probably rerun them once at 2 or 2:30. Any extra slots they have may go towards bringing back some classics like Outlaw Star or something. And I wouldn't be surprised if they ended FMA:B early like they did to Kekkaishi and Drrr if they see it fit. |
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Soundmonkey44
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Agreed, It only makes sense they would show reruns of both at least once, but most likely in different time slots giving NEW content their old spots. As for older shows, while it would be nice to see classics like Outlaw Star, Gundam Wing, Trigun, etc back on the block eventually (probably in the wee hours of the morning.) Obviously attaining new shows is their top priority. Nostalgia can be a great way to keep yourself entertained, but it can also be destructive. But yes, hopefully over time Toonami will expand and have a good balance of new shows and some of the more memorable classics that fans grew up with. Anywho, rewatching the broadcast off of my DVR. Tom really looks nice in HD. Also, still disappointed Deadmans OP doesn't play on its first episode, look forward to seeing that on my TV next saturday. Seriously Deadman's op, is just...so catchy. Also wonder what there gonna replace the "Toonami's Back B*tches" song with during the intro? If they keep it to long it'll get played out pretty fast lol. |
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