Forum - View topicShelf Life - Salary Cap
Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Next Note: this is the discussion thread for this article |
Author | Message | |||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Anime World Order
Posts: 389 Location: Florida |
|
|||||
Dudes bein' rude, Erin. Get my catchphrase theft right! I'll commend you for being able to write something about Rental Magica (the series itself; Right Stuf's presentation and extras are fantastic). Of every review I've ever had to write, Rental Magica was the single hardest thing I've ever done. I feel absolutely nothing towards it besides "well...the theme song's cool."
Speaking as another reviewer--and I'm not just any reviewer, I'm the BEST ANIME REVIEWER IN THE MARTIAL WORLD--I can perfectly see the validity of not providing a summary for a given anime title. As Hiroki Azuma put forth, the value of plot and narrative in Japanese animation has significantly decreased over the last fifteen years. In 2010, the motor which powers the "otaku market" lies more in visuals and mood than storyline and characterization. Or, to put it more cynically, all you need to sell merchandise and inspire doujinshi goods are character designs and a few personality traits. This line of thinking used to be solely limited to the realm of pornography, but it's now well...kinda the standard. After all, people do not primarily consume porn because of its storylines or characters; indeed, for many such matters aren't really even on the radar. This No Money cartoon in question happens to really be porno, and as such describing its premise and characters is generally an absolute fool's errand in explaining why people ACTUALLY like it. Based solely on a glance at the cover, I would wager the story is something along the lines of "the big guy with the DOMINATING BLACK HAIR totally rizzapes the bejeebus out of that girl-looking kid [who's really a boy] with the SUBMISSIVE BLONDE HAIR so much until the kid loves him for it" which come to think of it is the basic "plot" of many a yaoi doujinshi. But again, that doesn't really matter, does it? I'm certainly no fujoshi. I must confess that I don't make any sort of habit out of watching, owning, or even downloading animated porn. I'm certainly not opposed to the concept, it's just that pretty much all of them either 1. deal in absolutely abhorrent actions that I have no interest in seeing, least of all for purposes of arousal (this is by far and away the most common occurrence), 2. feature artwork, animation, and/or character designs not to my liking (also very common), or 3. are non-explicit, "softcore" material. As such, I tell everyone that Japanese animated pornography, just like their live-action output, requires far too much effort to try and seek out anything that resembles the content found in "mainstream" American/European smut for me to bother with it. To be fair, I imagine that lack of resemblance is precisely why its fans enjoy it. I could be wrong, but...nah. I'll just assume anyone who claims otherwise is lying to save face. |
||||||
Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
|
|||||
Hey dude you are way overthinking this. |
||||||
agila61
Posts: 3213 Location: NE Ohio |
|
|||||
Its just naturally confusing to not have them line up. Not Erin's fault, of course ... probably somebody further up the editorial ladder going on their cynical gut reaction instead of thinking it through. |
||||||
Blood-
Bargain Hunter
Posts: 23880 |
|
|||||
Warning: I'm about to reveal more about my porn-surfing habits than anybody likely wants to know... ...but the only Japanese live-action porn I'm familiar with seems pretty innocuous. I go to aggregator sites like, say, Xhamster or Xvideos and click on the Asian or Japanese categories. Pretty much all you get are normal sex clips. But I have no doubt there is some pretty freaky stuff out there. Anyway, I like the Asian stuff because the women generally don't abide by the "clean-shaven" look that has lamentably taken over NA porn. On the down side, the, uh, "actresses" involved have a disconcerting habit of sounding like 10-year-old girls being tortured/murdered while simulating throes of passion. So yeah, it usually sound off for me. |
||||||
Anime_Rapture
Posts: 33 Location: Madison, WI |
|
|||||
I kind of feel the same way about Soul Eater, I just got to the part where they get to the jungle. I really hope the final part to the series can stand up like the first two parts. This whole Arachne thing is pretty meh.
|
||||||
Anime_Rapture
Posts: 33 Location: Madison, WI |
|
|||||
Bahaha!! This is so true!! Not to mention censored.... |
||||||
Kimiko_0
Posts: 1796 Location: Leiden, NL, EU |
|
|||||
I've seen both anime already. Planetes shifted to being all about Hachimaki halfway through, but before that it was good. Library Wars had decent characters, but its premise made it hard to take seriously.
Ah yes, it's on my to-watch list.
I think the rule is there to prevent lists without any added value, and things like "this is good, you should watch it". If you include commentary describing themes, what the anime is about, and how it relates to other, similar anime, well, that shouldn't be disallowed on a site like ANN, right? |
||||||
Blood-
Bargain Hunter
Posts: 23880 |
|
|||||
Ah yes, I forgot about the whole pixilation of naughty bits thing. Somebody really needs to come up with de-pixilation software where with one click you get rid of that and are left with the uncensored footage. ...Hmmm. brb |
||||||
Keichitsu0305
|
|
|||||
Agreed! (Is 'gayer' a real adjective?) In the show, Yuki and Shuichi's relationship was in the open and you knew they loved each other (even though it took Yuki longer to admit it). So it definetley was a romance anime; not just a show with 'gay/lesbian themes'. Descendants of Darkness, like neocloud9 already stated, only had 'gay themes' meaning no one was in love with each other (very disappointing) but the atmosphere was like a shounen-ai; you know they seemed to like each other. Other than Gravitation (I love the soundtrack BTW), shows like Junjo Romantica (manga has details), Kizuna (OVA), and Sukisyo (based on video game) has the relationship as the primary focus. ------ + The Shelf Pictures: Whoa!!! I will never own this many anime/manga/figures/other merchandise in my LIFE!!! But, then again, I don't have to own everything I like.... I might rent "Rental Magica". It sounds kinda okay plus I'm trying to watch more magical anime so i'll check it out!!! |
||||||
erinfinnegan
ANN Columnist
Posts: 598 |
|
|||||
I agree. In the case of yaoi there is not much variance from the standard plot line, which Daryl correctly spells out. In general, the more hardcore the porn the less room there is for plot. It's my understanding that most current porn in American is summarized with everything you need to know right in the title: "Three Redheads Do _____" or the classic, "Debbie Does Dallas". Spoilers, but the plot is about sex or sexual acts, and if there is any question as to what sort of sexual acts, that question is typically answered in the title. Handily, "character traits" are also in porn titles. The characters are redheads, and chances are you are not looking for much more character development than that (and if you are, your audience demographic is being under served.) I don't read romance novels, but it's my understanding that they adhere to strict formulaic guidelines. All you need to see is the cover and a title to find out if Fabio is a pirate this time. In any case, I had no question as to the plot of "No Money" because it was answered in the title and with the DVD cover. "I bet it is about a broke dude getting banged," I thought I as I clicked "Rent". And I was right. Consequently, I never did see "Snakes on a Plane".
Note to self: stop flushing rotten fruit... |
||||||
Kyokat
Posts: 50 |
|
|||||
I do, as it happens, and they're no more formulaic than saying all mysteries are alike because there's always going to be a case to solve or all science fiction is alike because it takes place in space with science. It's one thing not to like a genre, but please don't dismiss the books in that genre as all being the same, especially the genre that wipes the floor with all the other book categories when it comes to sales. If you're actually interested in learning about the differences, http://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/ is really an awesome (and funny) site.
And yet, you still found out that it matters how said banging occurs, because you didn't like the way they did it but presumably wouldn't have minded a different variation. So the plot was important. |
||||||
PBsallad
Posts: 338 Location: Phoenix |
|
|||||
Haven't seen DoD but it's also on Hulu and Manga. http://www.hulu.com/descendants-of-darkness http://www.manga.com/titles/descendents-darkness edt: Haven't seen part 3 of Soul Eater, but the first disc should be coming from Netflix soon. I'm a little disappointed to here about that snow arc. Hopefully I'll enjoy it. |
||||||
poonk
Posts: 1490 Location: In the Library with Philip |
|
|||||
(Edit: Added the "isn't" to my second sentence. Though I'm sure everyone got the gist of what I was saying, I'm just anal like that. ) Last edited by poonk on Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:01 am; edited 1 time in total |
||||||
erinfinnegan
ANN Columnist
Posts: 598 |
|
|||||
I highly approve of this URL.
I am aware of how well they sell. If someone complained to me, "I hate anime because it all has the same plot," I wouldn't get offended. Loads of anime series have similar plotlines, moreso now than ever. I get offended when people say that "all manga looks the same" and my reaction is always to come up with the two most disparate examples possible and tell that person to go check them out, like The Walking Man and Di Gi Charat.
Alright, fine, you got me. Reading a summary would not have dissuaded me, although reading a review would clearly have steered me away from the title. |
||||||
Kyokat
Posts: 50 |
|
|||||
Heh, I hear them reviewers can be useful for things like this.
Wait, can't you just reverse that? Doesn't this make just as much sense?
I barely even had to switch the words. |
||||||
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
||
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group