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Zalis116
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It's not just "people" that should do so; if this release really turns out to be uncensored with the home video masters, Legitimate businesses need to stick together in this cultural climate, and not provide needless grist for the anti-industry outrage mill. The usual clickbait grifters are already capitalizing on potential Azur Lane censorship, and easily tapping into the deep well of pro-Vic/anti-Funi sentiment that's out there. It's like they say, a lie gets around the world before the truth gets out the door, and these influencers' audiences are primed to believe anything negative about Funi and other companies. (Like when Funi mistakenly streamed an unfinished version of a Tamayomi episode in the midst of pandemic confusion, they accused Funi of actively redrawing the animation to make it look worse and fulfill a sinister "agenda" against cute anime girls.)
Some others that I can recall include: Bamboo Blade -- based on the absence of a bathhouse scene in ep 15. Maze TV -- uncensored versions were apparently lost sometime between the Japanese VHS/LD releases and the R1 DVDs from CPM. Series has no JP DVD release. The Girl Who Leapt Through Space -- uses TV version, and thus doesn't have the extended version of ep 01 from the JP home video release. Papillion Rose TV -- Maiden Japan version = TV version, although maybe the uncensored version was never fully released in Japan? Hidamari Sketch S1 -- some eps in Sentai's DVD used broadcast versions; I'm hoping those were fixed in the BD release. Generally US companies will notice something wrong if they're working with a fanservice-centric series and the masters they get have obvious censoring in the form of steam/light-beams/overlays on them. A lot of these "accidentally the TV version" incidents have been with series with only mild/occasional ecchi content, or where the home video version adds ecchi scenes but doesn't change anything otherwise (can't notice what isn't there), or where there isn't censorship, but the disc version has more subtle changes like animation fixes / added background details.
Um, pretty sure Sony is a JP IP holder? And it's Japanese companies producing these censored versions for Japanese TV. It's Japanese companies sometimes sending those censored versions to Western companies for overseas releases. Companies like Funi releasing what their licensing partners give them is not "tampering" in any way, shape, or form. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if some Japanese executives wanted us to only get censored/broadcast versions on disc over here, in order to protect the more-expensive Japanese discs from reverse importation. I know some can't let go of the edits that were done in the 90s with the likes of DBZ and Sailor Moon, but those edits ultimately served the JP rights-holders goals of making their properties more mainstream and successful in the US. (And were likely fully approved by the Japanese side for that exact purpose.) There's no way DBZ would've flourished if it never made it to TV, and only sold on 97 unedited/subtitled 3-episode VHS tapes in comic stores at the equivalent of $50 apiece in today's dollars.
Sometimes the Japanese side just won't yield, though. Like with the first (and maybe second?) season of Koihime Musou, Sentai received a version that was less-censored than the broadcast, but had "chibi" versions of certain scenes that were fully uncensored in the JP discs. HiDive is a pay-only subscription service, but the only version available of the 1st season of Ro-Kyu-Bu! is the broadcast version, because the Japanese side yanked back the rights for home video release and uncensored streaming. Last edited by Zalis116 on Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:51 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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BigOnAnime
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https://i.imgur.com/KhkcNyK.jpg https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2016/11/01/anime-craft-weekly-17-how-tv-anime-works-or-doesnt-work/
http://web.archive.org/web/20111004202407/http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=100801
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-06-27/sentai-filmworks-relinquishes-ro-kyu-bu-home-video-rights |
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CatSword
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On the contrary, withholding releases from an anime store that's been around for over 20 years due to either a misunderstanding or Funimation backpedaling would make them such douchebags I don't think I would ever think about supporting them again. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Bisuketto
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From the newsletter post, Robert's statement implies they reached out and a Funimation rep confirmed to them. Hence the report in their letter.
Whether this is true, we won't know until a clarifying statement is made. However, If they did indeed reach out, then whomever they talked to has some serious issues. |
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slau783
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I think the article needs a revision to accurately describe the situation. This part of the article is inaccurate
The newsletter clearly states that RACS confirmed with Funimation that the release is censored. Nothing was implied. I see no reason why RACS would lie or make that up. The ANN article makes it sound like RACS is at fault for the confusion by making assumptions. This is either a case of simple miscommunication, or Funimation trying to backpedal due to the fallout. |
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Richmyster84
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Another thing Funimation did was announce the dub of Masou Gakuen HxH and then they were bought by Sony and they quietly removed the release from online preorders and as far as I'm aware they never updated the community on its status. Pretty safe to say they shelved it even after posting a dubbed clip, so at least some dubbing was completed. It's just continually poor customer relations debacle after another.
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Rentwo
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Agreed. Either RACS was fed bad info by a Funimation employee, or Funimation quickly backpedaled once the news spread around and got a lot of backlash from the community and are now trying to damage control and going to change it. Hopefully the final product is indeed uncensored.
I've seen your posts in a lot of threads that are critical of licensing companies and you definitely go to bat for big companies a lot, but this is honestly a step too far. To start suggesting whistleblowers be punished via backchannel bullying and distribution meddling is downright disgusting. I can't see how anyone would view Funimation in a favorable light in that situation if they start sabotaging stores that are critical of them and trying to inform customers. |
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getchman
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well, its still scheduled to be released two months from now. If we suddenly see a delay, similar to ben-to, then we could probably assume this current release is censored in some way. Of course, it could easily be something else since they often push back release dates for various shows. So, I guess we just wait
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Zalis116
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However, there does exist a fan-edited version of Strike Witches S1 ep 07, where a fansub group took the Japanese DVD version, photoshopped out some convenient leaves and flying soap bars, and added... certain anatomical details that would've had to be mosaic-ed on any actual Japanese release. So there's probably a non-zero amount of viewers who saw the unofficial decensored edit, then saw Funi's release (or rips thereof), and accused Funimation of censorship.
Yes, I suppose it shouldn't come to that. Overreaction on my part. But RACS is only a "whistleblower" here if they're telling the truth about corporate wrongdoing, which it seems they are not. Funi needs to figure out who, if anyone, is giving out wrong or misleading information to retailers, and maybe RACS should've waited until they had the discs in hand before proclaiming them to be censored. It all depends on what they were told; if they only asked, "will this be TV-14 or TV-MA," got the answer "TV-14," and assumed "guess it's censored then," then that would be irresponsible, though not malicious. Plenty of fanservicey shows have had their home video versions released by Funi and others as TV-14 / 13+ in the past, as an anime retailer in business for 20 years would know. There's no backpedaling in the face of fan backlash here; if Funi really were about to release the TV version, they couldn't simply switch it out and release it uncensored without delaying the release by a number of months. |
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Key
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Sorry, but you're fishing here. Sometimes licenses get picked up and Things Happen behind the scenes which either greatly delays them or prevents them from ever coming out. This has happened many times over the years with a wide variety of companies and has nothing to do with the issues being talked about in this thread |
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Kadmos1
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Funi VA Meli Grant told me on Twitch that she did some background voices on the HxH dub but eventually was told was the Eng. dub was getting "shelved". |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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It should be noted the upcoming Azur Lane game for the Switch is also rated Teen and not Mature yet seemingly has not caused the same controversy. animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-09-22/azur-lane-crosswave-game-switch-version-heads-west-in-2021/.164336
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strawberry-kun
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The game doesn’t have nudity. There’s no sources that say they spoke to a company rep and confirmed it’s censored. This comparison makes no sense. |
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