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NEWS: PW: Viz Media Lays Off Up to 60, Closes NY Branch

Sorry, but when the "Shonen Jump Advanced" *snort* line is so hacked up it makes you want to throw the book out in disgust, that is not "pretty minor."

Go away. Preferably out of business. Then maybe someone who cares about fans and art as much as money will get the stuff you previously used to wipe your backside and put it out the way it's supposed to be.

eyevocal wrote:

Yeah--protecting them from people like me who want to read unmolested stories. Hence, my money goes elsewhere. Why don't they just license series they don't have to screw with to avoid the wrath of the masses of the asses who like feeding carpet-bagging litigation crocodiles and paralytically fear having to talk honestly with their own children? Phoquin' duh!

Which, uh, they do.

Boycotting an entire company when most of the series they put out aren't censored is, frankly, stupid. You just don't buy the titles they censor, and buy the ones they give full respect to -- like, say, Viz's Signature line titles. Is that actually voting for your wallet? As you say, "Phoquin duh."

Yes, it is. Giving them money for their uncensored titles is giving them money to censor others, so I refuse to. When they cut that crap out, apologize for doing that in the past and re-release the afflicted titles unmolested, they will get out of my doghouse. And not one second sooner.

Yes, it is. Giving them money for their uncensored titles is giving them money to censor others, so I refuse to. When they cut that crap out, apologize for doing that in the past and re-release the afflicted titles unmolested, they will get out of my doghouse. And not one second sooner.

e/v.

eyevocal wrote:

Sorry, but when the "Shonen Jump Advanced" *snort* line is so hacked up it makes you want to throw the book out in disgust, that is not "pretty minor."

Name manga that they've actually censored over the past three years.

eyevocal wrote:

Go away. Preferably out of business. Then maybe someone who cares about fans and art as much as money will get the stuff you previously used to wipe your backside and put it out the way it's supposed to be.

Yeah, you want a company that puts out material by Takehiko Inoue, Taiyo Matsumoto, Inio Asano, Natsume Ono, Fumi Yoshinaga, Daisuke Igarashi, Hayao Miyazaki, Iou Kuroda and Kazuo Umezu to go out of business because you can't see nipples on an ecchi series?

Hahahahahahaha.

fudge off.

Okay. I could give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you're not just one of those people who comes up with an absurdly elaborate and unreasonable standard that a company must meet before you'll buy from them as a half assed excuse to never pay for anything. I could assume you really do care about censorship just that much. I'm not going to though and here's why:

If you really cared about censorship, you would prioritize doing something about it and as it is, you're not doing a damn this to discourage it. You're so eager to rage over the evils of censorship that you set this absurd standard for what they'll have to do to ever earn your business. You have to know that it's never going to happen though so what you're essentially saying is that you'll never support them ever. That being the case, you've just made yourself completely irrelevant to them. There's no point in them worrying about what you want. They might as well just cater to people who don't care about censorship. Or if they don't...it's because there's enough people out there with the sense to actually support them when they do the right thing and don't censor instead of holding some silly little grudge.

Skip Beat and Claymore. And that's just with a quick look.

Damn straight. If they've become such a bunch of wusses that they're now mortally afraid of--gasp--nipples, which they had no problem with in the past, then they're better gone.

If they would actually, you know, have the transparency to talk with people instead of pulling the spin BS of "it's not censoring, it's only editing" (which is like saying, "It's not an assault rifle, it's only a gun"), then I'd be able to do something about it. As it is, there is no open communication with them whatsoever--because they are scared to death of the possibility of having to deal directly with the criticism that they so rightly earn.

eyevocal wrote:

Skip Beat and Claymore. And that's just with a quick look.

I've never seen anyone claim that Skip Beat is edited.

The Claymore edit you refer to is a penis from volumes 2 and 3, which were published in 2006.

2010 - 2006 = 4

As you see.

eyevocal wrote:

Damn straight. If they've become such a bunch of wusses that they're now mortally afraid of--gasp--nipples, which they had no problem with in the past, then they're better gone.

And yet they publish nipples in numerous mature titles, and for something like, say, Nana, they just slap a "Parental Advisory" warning on the cover, and viola, nipples.

And let's not forget that they stopped editing I"s at just around this same time when they change their censorship policy. The only manga series they've edited in the past three years are those mainstream titles they want to get into Walmart.

But, you see, you don't seem to actually care about series without censorship. If you did, then you wouldn't boycott Viz. You know very well what you're demanding is never going to happen, so this is just a convenient excuse to never buy that manga.

Have fun, leech.

Fine. It still won't make me forgive them for their sins of the recent past.

That's nice. So when are we going to get apologies and repairs for the stuff that got The Knife instead of The Sticker?

I bought all the original Japanese tankouban of I''s--and I can't even read Japanese. So leech this.

If they would actually, you know, have the transparency to talk with people instead of pulling the spin BS of "it's not censoring, it's only editing" (which is like saying, "It's not an assault rifle, it's only a gun"), then I'd be able to do something about it. As it is, there is no open communication with them whatsoever--because they are scared to death of the possibility of having to deal directly with the criticism that they so rightly earn.

I bought all the original Japanese tankouban of I''s--and I can't even read Japanese. So leech this.

We have
no plans at this time for drastic measures such as product cancellations
or business line closures.

But they still canceled Shojo Beat....

Fine. It still won't make me forgive them for their sins of the recent past.