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I don't think there is a modern anime where I have actually seen full nudity of young characters or boy characters where you get full frontal total nudity anymore.

Ecchi anime, unless it's horrifyingly violent and/or misogynistic, is way, way, way safer than the vast majority of the metric ton of porn that Japan produces on a daily basis

FLCLGainax wrote:

Some people in the mainstream may watch a Miyazaki film or Cowboy Bebop out of curiosity, but wouldn't watch most anime because of the narrative structure being "too involving" to get into.

I don't think that's true. If you examine the most popular shows in the west--Doctor Who, Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, The Big Bang Theory--they all have strong continuity, if not a serial format, and all are subject to a good amount of continuity lockout if you start watching from the middle. The American mainstream now is used enough to this level of continuity that they wouldn't be bothered by most anime's serial format.

No, I think anime is still firmly stuck in the Animation Age Ghetto, and people dismiss it as being for kids, and some who know it's not may avoid talking about it out of fear of people thinking they, as adults, watch children's entertainment. Hence why they might see sexual material as being more depraved than for live action: Because this is supposed to be for kids.

Or how about Game of Thrones? Plenty of skimpy female outfits, nudity, and rape that gets re-branded as "pre-consensual sex" -- a concept quite familiar to readers and viewers of hentai -- going on there. Not to mention the very recognizable "twincest" fetish. Combine that with evening/latenight timeslots on premium networks, and GoT starts to look more and more like a live-action fanservice anime with a more sprawling story and of course more violence.

Companies don't bring the banhammer down on doujinshi because it's a vital part of the fandom. Amateurs turn into professionals, professionals keep up amateur releases for fun, and it constantly brings in new blood and talent every few months. Your thinking is entirely rooted in American sue-happy anti-sex mentality. Doing porn in Japan isn't a death sentence.

I hear this a lot too, and I usually tell them not to be so lazy I'm kidding, but unfortunately, the average person doesn't want to watch anything that requires the slightest effort. On the other hand, one of the reasons I got into anime is because of the serial storytelling format. Sure, a lot of recent shows like Battlestar Galactica, Walking, Game of Thrones etc. have continuous storylines, but anime has been doing this for 30+ plus years.

Unfortunately, the whole "anime are still cartoons" attitude is really an unfortunate byproduct of all the stereotypes about animation.

It's that sue-happy nature, regardless of whether it's pornographic or not, that at least contributes to why we have no robust independent comic scene. I assume we do and it's probably miniscule, and rarely does any artist make it big or get noticed, and they're probably online publications.

I used to think that fanservice was a perfectly healthy feature of a less puritan culture. But it is so pervasive that nowadays I think it is just a shortcut. Good writing and good jokes require talent, which is expensive, but anybody can embellish an anime with fanservice, which pleases young male viewers in a cheap and easy manner.

Heh, at this year's Anime Expo, I found three Miis whose last-played game was Senran Kagura Burst. I had never heard of it prior to then, and since it was somewhat popular at Anime Expo, I decided to look up what it was about.

All the girls have bust sizes around that size or larger, if that's what you're into. (Well, there are a few exceptions, but even then, everything's relative...)

Anime ARE cartoons. They're a type of cartoon. They just span a wide age range, which is not understood by people who grew up in eras dominated by Saturday Morning animation and Disney movies.

For some reason beyond my comprehension, TV schedulers love to rerun shows in random episode order. For this reason, writers are constrained so that the show will still make sense in any order (the pilot and the final episodes often being exceptions).

It's that sue-happy nature, regardless of whether it's pornographic or not, that at least contributes to why we have no robust independent comic scene. I assume we do and it's probably miniscule, and rarely does any artist make it big or get noticed, and they're probably online publications.

Or how about Game of Thrones? Plenty of skimpy female outfits, nudity, and rape that gets [url=/culture/game-thrones-terry-richardson-and-silencing-sexual-assault]re-branded as "pre-consensual sex"[/url] -- a concept quite familiar to readers and viewers of hentai -- going on there. Not to mention the very recognizable "twincest" fetish. Combine that with evening/latenight timeslots on premium networks, and GoT starts to look more and more like a live-action fanservice anime with a more sprawling story and of course more violence.

When I said cartoons, yeah, I was also referring to Disney and saturday morning cartoons like Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes. Its really bad too that most people have it ingrained in their minds that animation/cartoon automatically means its either a kids show or a comedy show (like Family Guy). Although I hope thats changing with shows like Avatar and Korra.

Shippoyasha wrote:

I don't think there is a modern anime where I have actually seen full nudity of young characters or boy characters where you get full frontal total nudity anymore.

Recently, Matarou in Kill la Kill got penis and balls, and one of the girls on the Momotarou episode of Ai Mai Mi!'s second season got a vagina-drawn-as-straight-line when she popped out of the peach as a baby. But yeah, you probably wouldn't see the episodes of Dragon Ball with Goku naked in quite the same way nowadays.
EDIT: extremely NSFW hyperlinks to disgusting, gratuitous animated child nudity added