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NEWS: Vic Mignogna Replaced in Morose Mononokean English Dub Cast (Update)

It's looking more and more likely that Vic's last major role is going to be...Bubsy. (I'm not joking. The game's set to come out in April. I guess they could delay it several months to take Vic out, but it seems unlikely at this point.)

Monica Rial has more to say, and a request that people stop harassing her on Twitter: https://twitter.com/rialisms/status/1093275331929296897?s=21

Thought I had today, regarding the complaints over him losing roles because of this.

To preface, I've said before that while I'd heard the allegations about inappropriate behavior (including and especially toward minors), I had never previously seen reports. My dislike of him comes purely toward his treatment of convention staff, which I have personally witnessed and experienced.

From what I have seen, via posts and in the articles, Vic himself is "recognizing" that his actions have made people uncomfortable (to say the least), and claims that he is going to do better. Just for fun, let's compare this to an addict. They've recognized that their addiction is a problem, and say they're going to do better.

What's the first thing that you're supposed to do? Take away their access to their addiction. If it's something that isn't a super-dangerous thing (like drugs), once they're past the addiction, it could be possible to reintroduce the access in a limited form (like, a casual drink of alcohol), provided it doesn't go to far. But you have to wean them off of it first.

As I see it, Vic's problems stem from the idol status he's cultivated among a certain fanbase. And it's the attention from the fanbase that's his addiction. So instead of seeing it as "his career is being ruined," think of it more as removing him from the public eye, to combat his addiction. Roles, and attending conventions to promote these roles, is contributing to the problem. So that needs to be removed so that things can heal (on all sides).

Like I said in my edit to your post, I'm letting this stay just because I'm tired of seeing this come up, and the more posts like this that show up and then stay for a while before a mod gets to them (and generate replies and get quoted), the more likely it is some users might get genuinely confused. So let's put this to bed.

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That's it. That's the conspiracy. A guy who works for ANN but didn't write the Vic articles made a tweet some folks disliked.

And you know the absurd thing? The actual CEO of ANN has already said why this article is happening now. See here for the full post, but I'll quote the especially relevant parts.

Consider, again, that none of his peers have spoken out in his defense, but for one who faces an accusation of his own. And no con-runners have come to his defense or affirmatively said "yes, he will be here," but for the guy who runs Anime Matsuri, who has been accused by a number of people himself.

Please stop pretending that nobody spoke up about Vic Mignogna until now, or that this backlash against him is some sort of new thing. I get that the alt-right crowd are desperate to paint the situation as such because they desperately need a fictional Shonen Jump Weekly conspiracy that will earn them clicks from their monetized youtube rants, but painting this situation as something new is patently false.

Controversies and dramasplosions caused by Vic's behavior have dogged him for over fifteen years. Anyone who has actually been in the anime fandom for a long time, remembers that the first organized backlash against him and demands for him to be held responsible for his behavior happened back in 2007, when he was cast as Viral in the ADV dub for Gurren Lagann. These backlashes have repeated every time when he scored a role that was so glaringly out of his range that there was no reason he would be cast in it without pulling clout with Funimation executives, such as with his casting in Escaflowne.

The only difference between this time and the previous ones is that people refused to be hushed down this time.

This coupled with the above by Mad_scientist does make sense. Man, this is a minefield to navigate and understand. I really hope that all the parties that interact with Vic and other voice actors in the future can learn to hold themselves to higher standards of accountability when things are reported, or even rumors start up. It really does come down to the fact that all of this has gone on for so long without anyone (In power) doing anything about it.

We've said it before in each of the Vic threads, and I'll repeat it again. Keep the discussion on topic. We're not going to discuss what other people have said on twitter. If/when those topics get covered there will be appropriate threads for discussion. While Monica's tweets may be about Vic they have zero to do with this specific topic.

Can I ask does Vic deserve to be punished like this?

Can I ask does Vic deserve to be punished like this?

Psycho 101 wrote:

We've said it before in each of the Vic threads, and I'll repeat it again. Keep the discussion on topic. We're not going to discuss what other people have said on twitter. If/when those topics get covered there will be appropriate threads for discussion. While Monica's tweets may be about Vic they have zero to do with this specific topic.

While I respect this stance, what is this news about if not Vic? Nobody here is really talking about the show or the change so much as they are the allegations against him. What do you want us to do, pretend the tweets aren’t out there?

In my opinion, what is happening to him is far worse than anything he has done, publicly.

Not that I am agreeing with, um... what's it called... "misconduct." But basically, two wrongs don't make a right.

If you feel violated, in anyway, you say to him "hey, I don't feel comfortable with this." You don't grin and bare it, hold a grudge, and then anonymously snipe the guy's career when he least expects it.

Some people are just overly clingy. That's their personality. Or, they simply are poor at reading a situation. It's entirely possible that people feel pressured when meeting someone with any sort of fame attached to them. That pressure causes them to feel awkward to point out these things when they happen. That, in turn, signals to Vic that he isn't doing anything wrong. Then, when someone does say something and he does apologize, he doesn't really know where the line is drawn.

He may have done something "inappropriate" with 20, 30, 50, 100 fans without any of them saying a word of protest. Some may not have even found a problem with it or maybe they even thanked him for the familiarity (a lot of people go for that stuff). So when the handful of people that do have a problem come out to say something, what do you think he attributes to that apology?


Imagine living your life, having some daily routine on your way to work. Doesn't matter what it is. In that routine you latched onto doing something out of convenience purposes that makes your commute easier. Now, lets say you do that for 10 years straight. However, unknown to you, you're actually breaking some minor, obscure law. You run into some strict cop and he calls you out on it. You'd apologize, but probably be left thinking "what the hell did I do wrong?"