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Maybe we could go by the soon-to-be new definition of moe on TvTropes? If you aren't aware, they had a major shift in editorial policy over there.

Maybe we could go by the soon-to-be new definition of moe on TvTropes? If you aren't aware, they had a major shift in editorial policy over there.

Maybe we could go by the soon-to-be new definition of moe on TvTropes? If you aren't aware, they had a major shift in editorial policy over there.

dragon695 wrote:

Maybe we could go by the soon-to-be new definition of moe on TvTropes? If you aren't aware, they had a major shift in editorial policy over there.

TVTropes is entirely user edited. It's not even close to anything resembling a credible source. All that site does is suffocate creative thinking by trying to categorize things into neat little pigeonholes with no room for free thought. Never use it in an argument.

dragon695 wrote:

Maybe we could go by the soon-to-be new definition of moe on TvTropes? If you aren't aware, they had a major shift in editorial policy over there.

TVTropes is entirely user edited. It's not even close to anything resembling a credible source. All that site does is suffocate creative thinking by trying to categorize things into neat little pigeonholes with no room for free thought. Never use it in an argument.

Fencedude5609 wrote:

Zac wrote: Moe mow-eh adj. 1. Literally undefinable as nerds cannot agree on the true meaning of it, believing that because the word is describing a subjective emotion that means the definition of it must also be completely subjective 2. Forums gasoline I'm quite capable of defining moe, the fact that a certain segment (who claims to not like moe, generally) doesn't like the definition is an entirely different issue.

While I'm quite aware that This Is Fencedude's World And We're Just Living In It, the fact that every single time anyone tries to define the term at all either in an editorial piece or in the forums it turns into a 30-page tornado of arguing over who's the most right about their personal definition of moe suggests that maybe it isn't so simple as "it isn't my fault people don't universally accept my definition".

In fact the very way you worded this post would, if this thread didn't already have 7 pages of moe arguing in it, ignite an argument about the definition of moe.

Ever think that maybe discussing moé is the way we can eventually come to an acceptable definition? I mean, rather than complaining about how ill-defined it is, then complaining when people try to discuss that in order to define it?

My argument is, very specifically, that you like arguing about it way more than you would ever enjoy actually figuring out how to define it. All of these discussions read like "No, I "get it" more than you do" dick-measuring contests. There really is no substantive discussion happening at all.

Timeenforceranubis wrote:

Ever think that maybe discussing moé is the way we can eventually come to an acceptable definition? I mean, rather than complaining about how ill-defined it is, then complaining when people try to discuss that in order to define it?

My argument is, very specifically, that you like arguing about it way more than you would ever enjoy actually figuring out how to define it. All of these discussions read like "No, I "get it" more than you do" dick-measuring contests. There really is no substantive discussion happening at all.

It would seem obvious from the prominent MOE Taskforce logo, as if there is some internet conspiracy to suppress moe shows. I love how he always uses the accented "e" as if it is sophisticated.

Realistically discussions like this aren't going to produce one definition that everyone everywhere will agree on. Everyone has their own definition and that's not going to change.

That being said the word "moe" really isn't as confusing as it seems to be. When I see someone use it I usually have a pretty good idea what they mean even if I don't know how they personally define it. I mean it's not like I'm completely lost whenever someone uses it.

I think that the moé discussion is (and should be) more about opening people up to other possible interpretations from which they can use their own judgment in how to define moé, rather than dictatorially changing everyone's definition to conform with one universal meaning.