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Olliff
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Never really thought of anime like that. There was a time that I thought most anime was either super violent or strictly for kids.
I also find the discussion revolving around accusations of Lion King plagiarism to be amusing. It would be amusing to see how successful Kimba would be if it was released with an English dub at the same time Lion King came out. I was under the impression from reviews on this site that one of the two had much higher overall quality than the other. Putting this aside, I still agree that Lion King should at the very least admit that it was influenced by Kimba. |
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Showsni
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It was. A new dub version of Kimba came out in 1993, the year before the Lion King. Some people think Disney were planning on making a remake of Kimba, but realised they couldn't get the rights after they'd already started. |
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Ggultra2764
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The Kimba dub is now airing on KTV during the week which is pretty much a children's channel geared for religious viewers. If you have DISH Network, KTV is on channel 264. |
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Top Gun
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Wow...I'd never heard of claims against Atlantis before. Figures, too; I'd thought that that was one of the more underrated recent Disney efforts. 
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LeoKnight25
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I've never actually thought of anime as just "OVA's and movies". I've been into anime since I was a kid, meaning that I watched anime on TV when it was being aired. Saber Rider, Starblazers, Battle of the Planets/G-Force, Voltron, Tranzor Z, Speed Racer, Macron 1, Force Five, Robotech...I knew they were Japanese when I was watching them because they were so different from normal cartoons on at the time. Having grown up around so much anime on TV, it was impossible not to know that there were TV series out there. When the video boom hit, I was already familiar with anime for the most part. I always wondered at the time why more TV series hadn't made it out. It was just a different industry back then vs. the way it is now. The market can support more TV shows nowadays then it could even 10 years ago. It wasn't really cost effective enough to have many TV series released on home video. There were obviously exceptions like Starblazers, 8 Man, Astro Boy, Robotech, Speed Racer, Gigantor and Robo Formers (repackaged Starvengers episodes from the Force Five block) as well as a few others but, DVD makes it a lot easier to release TV shows on home video in the U.S. now. So, I guess I can kinda see how someone would get confused, but really, I think it'd be hard not to realize that there are animated TV shows like the OVA's that are being put on video here. Quite a few countries around the world have their own animated TV programming anyway...why would Japan be much different?
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anime advocate
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Thanks and also just wanted to add on to this for those who don't know anime on demand is on channel 123, which showcase some great animes also. The whole old stereotype thing can argued by many that it never happened, but in fact it did happen a long time ago, and still happens a little bit today. I feel there should be more channels devoted to anime especially if you have the set up. It really makes me mad that most of the really good animes are left untold on tv. Some of which are underground, but still most desirve a chance. [/quote] Last edited by anime advocate on Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:03 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Mushi-Man
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i think that there is a new stereotype coming out now. No that's much worse. Everyone thinks that anime is just Pokemon and yu-gi-oh. It seems like few people (out side of the anime fan base) think that all anime is just the same stuff as Pokemon. They don;t even stop to think that anime is an actual art form with many different and divers genres. I think that it's growing into a problem.
Also, while we're on the topic of channels. Can anyone tell me what cable or satellite provider has the Funimation Channel. I still have no clue as to where I can find it. |
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Top Gun
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I think that a few regional cable markets carry it (or at least a block of it), but Verizon's FiOS digital television service carries it nationwide. |
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belindabird
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Unfortunately, the other side of the coin are the people who think that all anime is pornography. My own mother who's known about my anime fandom for a long time even asked if it was all just animated porn. Thankfully she listened to my explanation about the wide range of genres, but apparently the idea is floating around out there and I find that a lot more annoying because it makes anime fans out to be a bunch of pervs rather than a lot of people who are just watching "those Japanese cartoons." |
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anime advocate
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I have heard this one many times before. I hate when people bring it up, becuase some of the best animes out unfortunately have alittle bit of nudity. Take Rosario+Vampire for example many would hate that show after the first episode due to the main charicter spoiler[falling off his bike into a girl, and thus the girls underware is showing]. Another anime example would have to be Elfen Lied proving that spoiler[Nyu is only nude because she is in some sort of institution]. You really cant judge animes by rather or not they have a little bit of nudity. |
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Mushi-Man
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Yeah, I've heard this a few times. When I mention that I watch anime people will ask me if I watch Hentai and stuff like that. I'm kind of taken back by this question because I didn't think to many people (out side of people who watch anime or at least familiar with anime) actually know that it was a thing out there. But yes, this seems to be another growing problem. Last edited by Mushi-Man on Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Xanas
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Rosario + Vampire is pretty much about the fanservice, so the spoiler there isn't purely necessary, did you end on the first episode? I mean that every episode has shots like that multiple times, it's just the nature of that show. If parents who are against that sort of fanservice caught kids watching the show they would likely see it as "porn" of some type. I know many parents who would have issues with it and many who wouldn't.
Elfen Lied is another one that is just utterly violent and has a lot of fanservice (I agree with you halfway, I don't think the nudity is purely for the fanservice but it's undeniable it's being played more than it needs to be to get the point across. There have been many other shows to cover someone being nude as part of the plot that didn't involve that). So again on this one I think you are using an example parents like that certainly would have an issue with. Anyhow, my sister is 12 years younger than me (15) and has a friend at school whose parents are exactly like that, and they won't even hear about being wrong. They honestly think every series is at least as fanservice-oriented as Rosario and/or worse. The "friend" herself is a good kid and won't watch any anime since her parents exclusively disallowed it. She kind of broke the rules a bit with some Final Fantasy stuff at one time since it was CG and not drawn, but she can't watch that either because her parents saw a video she made which had some Advent Children in it. I think parents who just have this misconception and are willing to listen could easily have it corrected by their children if they aren't like those I just mentioned. But terrible parents who refuse to listen to their children will probably hold these misconceptions forever because some random person told them anime was bad. |
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Ggultra2764
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It could be argued that the nudity spoiler[coming from the diclonius at the institution shows how they are being denied their humanity. By leaving the diclonius in the nude, those monitoring them regard them as nothing more but animals. The same could also apply to the violence, despite how gratuitous it is. By treating the diclonius this way, those at the institution are no different from the diclonius.] |
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Mushi-Man
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I don't think that fan serves is that much of a problem. I don't mind nudity and pantie flashes as long as there is a story to go along with it. I don't care if they have the characters walking around naked all the time as long as there is a good story with character development to go along with it. I think that it's hentai that is giving the public this opinion on anime, not your everyday fanserves.
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anime advocate
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Well mostly, you can not just judge anime off things you have heard or seen. In this case people who have seen hentai and anime that is partly pervirse can then have bad images that stick in to there mind that anime is bad. People begain to think that other people who watch anime are nothing more than people who watch hentai. If there is an anime that has some nudity then all of the sudden that anime becomes hentai. This is an issue that could be fixed by taking hentai off worldwide. That way everone could see that some animes are not perverse but in fact are the oppisite. |
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