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Tamaria
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That it's happens doesn't mean it's accepted. For instance, Yuki Suetsugu had several of her series cancelled and had to leave the industry after plagiarism was discovered in several of her works. |
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ac195
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God, I really wish we had a statement from Kubo...
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teh*darkness
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Would the real Nick Simmons please stand up? Please stand up? Please stand up? *Sorry, that was the first thing that went through my head. 
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leafy sea dragon
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I saw some of the initial stuff for Skullduggery, and I must say, it makes the Bleach plagiarism even worse. The kid's got drawing skill. He knows how to draw. (I don't know if he knows how to tell a story though.) Why, then, is he squandering his potential by leeching off of some other established person? He has the ability to make something new and original. Has he no faith in his own talents?
If he had kept Incarnate with this art style, which I assume IS his own, he wouldn't have gotten into this sort of legal trouble. Instead, he went out of his way to copy one of the presently most well-known manga. Granted, Skullduggery seems to have characters who resemble Chad and Shinji, so I guess he planned to copy off of Bleach from the get-go. |
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Hon'ya-chan
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i.e. What your told to say by a lawyer to not incriminate yourself any further than it already is and look even more stupider and conceited in the process. Guarantee 100% that at least a Lawyer or some PR person crafted up that statement/edited the original apology from Nick. He should've at least shut his pie hole for a little while longer and allow Radical to deal with the matter. Him making these comments is akin to throwing gasoline on an already raging fire. |
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Charred Knight
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Actually she came back in 2007, and won an award in 2009, so she was gone for2 years, but both of the stories she was working on at the time where cancelled. |
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mufurc
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well, based on this statement he really is a tool. Seriously, this: "My inspirations reflect the fact that certain fundamental imagery is common to all Manga. This is the nature of the medium." is pure and undiluted bullshit. Kubo's characters qualify as "fundamental imagery" and are present in every manga? What the hell? (Even the characters themselves looked fundamentally different some seven-eight years ago when Kubo had a different art style.)
Just because it's common doesn't mean it should be accepted. Besides, copying poses and stuff is not the same thing as copying another mangaka's art style along with his characters. It may happen all the time in comics, but Marvel/DC tends to strive for a homogenized look (as far as I know/noticed, anyway) so it's less striking. Back in the old days manga had a similarly homogenized look (precisely because everyone was trying to draw like Tezuka) so it wasn't noticeable. But manga art styles have been a lot more diverse for a long time now (even within a single magazine, look at various Shounen Jump manga), so an artist stealing another's art style and character designs is very obvious and jarring. |
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The Xenos
 Posts: 1519 Location: Boston |
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Tomibiki
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I'm pretty sure Gene $immons is just gonna buy Kubo's soul and then order a hit on WSJ HQ if they say anything more about this...seriously it's best for them to not acknowledge this. KISS'd go all Amurikuuuuh "F&^# Yeah!" on 'em. And Viz? Hidemi Fukuhara'd better go on vacation for a couple months, them Israeli's don't mess around.......LoL I can't do it this is cheese, I keed I keed.
...But seriously, $immons could buy Kubo's soul.. |
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Expias
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Someone has pointed out that it appears as if Incarnate is using an image from the Skinwalkers movie poster (Lions Gate).
http://community.livejournal.com/bleachness/446299.html?thread=11352155#t11352155 Their comparison pic. http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4389/incarnateskinwalkers.jpg I can't verify that this was actually in the comic but someone who 'said' they have says it is in there. This may just be his acquiring rights to the image but with all of this, it's got to be looked into closely. |
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nynextew
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I looked through most of the pages, don't know if this was posted but: http://www.toplessrobot.com/2010/02/gene_simmons_kid_nick_is_a_comic_creator_a_doucheb.php
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ANBUx3
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If that was used for real, then wow. They went all the way on copying stuff. I can't read most of the text on that image, but it seems awful angsty. Why so angsty, Nick Simmons? |
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Vicserr
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But you know something, this might just make these books collectors items. If Incarnate ceases publication, a "celebrity" creator, nice (if traced) art, this stuff might make them a pot of gold in the secondary market (This will happen too with the Tea Party issue of Captain America as reprintings and collections will change the lettering of the "offending" sign. I used to work in a comic book store so I think that could happen).
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Elexin
Posts: 11 Location: England. |
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Euch, the Skinwalkers thing is here too? The Skinwalkers page wasn't in the actual Incarnate comic. It was just being used as a credit page; it had been added to the file containing scans of the comic by the people who scanned and uploaded it to identify themselves (The Unresurrected). |
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ZeroGee
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I guess nobody's going to take Nick seriously as a comic artist anymore. I wouldn't. Nor would I think any comic publishing company in this day and age of lawsuits would trust him.
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