Forum - View topicThe ANNCast Holiday Special 2014
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I enjoyed this podcast quite a bit, the fact that Zac and Justin have such divergent tastes makes for much better conversation than if it were otherwise. Hearing you guys navigate each others' contending opinions is pretty enjoyable. I disagree pretty strongly with both assessments of ZnT, but I've already outlined that somewhere else and will leave it at that.
I did watch the Babadook after listening to this podcast though, and the film was fantastic. It felt more like a character drama than a horror film in places, prefaced with Zac's explication of the metaphor. spoiler[I'm wondering how the ending of the film congeals with the metaphor for the monster as rage? The rage has been separated from the protagonist in some way, and now she "tends" to it somehow on a daily basis to keep it in check, but I'm not sure what psychological process that is supposed to be a metaphor for. Also the use of the dead husband as an avatar for the monster which I guess supposed to point out the source of her rage as resentment at her husband's death; ]there's a lot going on psychologically and consequently metaphorically in that film, and its ability to weave psychological processes into supernatural metaphors is pretty amazing. Regardless it was a quality namedrop. |
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DerekTheRed
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I forgot about that thread. I wasn't very eloquent there, but I was basically trying to say that naming characters 9 and 12 as part of an allusion to 9/11 was lazy and I was worried that that was indicative of the story as a whole. I guess I was right, seeing as I dropped it around episode 3 or 4, and Justin and Zac pretty much thought it was garbage. |
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shamisen the great
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I forgot you guys did that last year with Watamote. That makes sense. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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That was one of my favorite things about it, how it ended. spoiler[It acknowledged the rather bleak truth that dark feelings like that never truly leave you, they're part of you, part of who you are. Once you've let it out, you have to live with it and tend to it and keep it under control, but it never just disappears. It's a bittersweet ending - she's dealing with her pain and anger, but it will always be there, under the surface.] I'm glad you liked it man! Happy holidays. |
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invalidname
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walw6pK4Alo
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I think you'd find most fans saying Pocahontas was the first misstep, along with Hercules, but Hunchback and Mulan fared better as far as hindsight is concerned. Though the general idea seems to be Tarzan is the definitive last Renaissance film, for good or bad. What came after either bombed, was complete shit, or just never connected the same way as the films that came out in the previous decade, with only Lilo & Stitch and Emperor's New Groove really having any kind of lasting audience.
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ChibiKangaroo
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It's interesting that Lilo and Stitch is outside of the "Renaissance." It's one of the most successful Disney franchises as far as popularity and sequels. I guess maybe it's a lot more popular with the kiddies than the critics? |
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Arkthelad
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I watched "Frances Ha" after listening to this. Really charming film. I'm going to go watch all the rest of Noah whatevers films now. Thanks for the recommendation.
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mbanu
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I enjoyed Terror in Resonance. I know that people complain that it had non-violent terrorists, which made it stupid, but to me, the main characters weren't supposed to be terrorists -- it was just politically necessary for them to be terrorists. That's what the whole Five arc was about -- she was supposed to make sure that they screwed up in some way that would place control of the narrative about who they were and what they were about back into the hands of the Japanese government (and by proxy, back in the hands of the U.S. government). It's sort of like how if you want to portray a protest as a riot, the best and easiest way is to have it become a violent protest. If you want to portray a protester as a thug, the best and easiest way is to have them become a violent protester. This makes it easier to control the narrative because people who might have agreed with the protesters' views will start to fear them more than they agree with them.
There were a few small moments that I liked. I felt like the spoiler[bomb disarming in the Ferris wheel] segment did a great job capturing that moment when you've fucked up really badly and someone else is screwing themselves over to keep you from experiencing the consequences of your own stupid actions. You feel helpless and ashamed, the other person is trying to keep it together, and it's not quite clear if it's for your sake or to help not think about the consequences they're bringing on themselves. It was also nice to see them mention Tor -- the anime internet ecosphere seems to mostly consist of Gaagle, NicoNico, 2chan, and MMORPGs, so it's nice to get some variety, even if the whole spoiler[website with the deactivation codes] bit seemed like something you'd have seen in a movie about hackers from the 90s (maybe with a hint of Jurassic Park?  )
It was also nice that they tried to approach the stress involved in spoiler[living with a parent who has a poorly managed mental illness (Lisa's mom)]. Not a very subtle portrayal, but I haven't seen too many anime that touch on that. It had a lot of faults, (spoiler[I agree that the EMP aftermath was not portrayed well]) but I'd watch it again. |
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