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uncutpokemon
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your kidding, right? |
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Richard J.
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Personally, I don't even watch One Piece. It's just that I despise the mentality that went into the heavy editing of the series. It's this children are stupid, children will be confused by weird foreign stuff, children can't be exposed to violence, etc. garbage that I hate. I despise censorship and thus I despise 4Kids on that principle. I also despise people who think that the government should be raising their children or policing their TVs for them. I don't care if most of the whiners claim to be Christians and political conservatives like me, they should not be listened to! For goodness sake, 4Kids even made edits to Doremi. That is absurd on a level that boggles the mind. |
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Canuckian
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Nope I like them. Viva is like Pokemon without the kids that don't age, besides it's CanCon(Notice how my username is Canuckian)! Chaotic is alright, it seems like it could be better(4Kids is post-poning it until '07 if I recall), also it's CanCon! And no neither Shows are Anime, although Chaotic can be easily considered "Anime- Inspired". |
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Strephon
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It's not children who write letters to the FCC that lead to massive fines being levied against broadcasters; it's their parents. In other words, it's not a question of whether kids in the US are stupid (and I don't think "stupid" is the appropriate term anyway); it's a question of how their parents will react. Do you really not understand that the US and Japan have different views on how nudity and violence are depicted? Many European countries show topless women in their shampoo commercials; Janet Jackson shows part of a breast (with the nipple covered) and to many in the US it's the end of the world. On the other hand, porn in the US doesn't have to have the genitals pixellated as it does in Japan. 4Kids isn't awful (in the general sense) for making changes to Japanese shows so they can be shown in the US. (Their specific choices may be extremely awful, of course.) Every company that makes anime available for broadcast has to deal with US broadcast standards; 4Kids just handles it in a way you don't like. |
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Jeikobu
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Same here. If he were smart, he'd give us uncut anime! >< Anyway, good news about 4Kids. I hope it keeps dropping and dropping, and maybe once they're desparate they'll finally try the uncut route. Unfortunately, if they do it at all, it'll probably take them that long. 
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Abarenbo Shogun
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And this is why I keep saying, 4Kids needs to diversify their assets for maximum profit. Shunt unedited anime via their 4Sight subsidiary and take off from there. Heck, what boggles me is why, a company notoriously know for their marketing juggernaut that is Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh, completely failed in marketing One Piece and most of their Japanese properties. It took them what, a year to even push out ONE One Piece toy, and yet when Viz decided to push Naruto out, they at least had games and other related merchendise ready to roll as soon as the first second of Naruto aired on Toonami. I mean did they just decide their old marketing models were crap and tried something new? Let the "established" fanbase do the work? Did Toei had a hand in this, given their track record of handling their properties in NA? Or was it something else? Either way, Kahn needs to be held accountable for the mess of 4Kids properties. |
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lalachan
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I think that if 4kids really wants to see an improvement in their finances they need to stop giving a middle finger to the fanbase. They have up to this point verbally spit on fans of a series. Saying that the fans of that series should be HAPPY they brought it over to share with other people, nevermind the fact that they made so many changes the series isn't even the same anymore. I can forgive them because I understand what they are trying to do but I think they are going about it the wrong way. That being said, I think the best way for them to pull themselves up by the bootstrapps would be to release un-cut DVDs something they have refused to do. I think for them it's more a matter of pride than money. An un-cut release of One Piece or even Tokyo Mew Mew would blow away sales of their dubbed and cut versions. Look at Nelvana, Their uncut versions of Card Captor Sakura outshadowed the dub releases causing them to stop the production of the dubbed DVDs as the un-cut continued to sell until the end. Never underestimate the power of nerds. There are thousands of dollars not being made by them not producing un-cut DVDs. They might want to take a look into that.
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GATSU
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Strephon:
4Kids does it in a way which makes it hard for anyone-even their target audience-to like. Abaranebo:
Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh are specifically about selling crap. One Piece is about pirate battles. Why would kids looking for toy ads care about a cartoon with a story? |
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Cyan Bloodbane
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Ah, more good news from the front lines of the cencorship war. We'll get em yet lads!!
Rally-ho! |
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Kouji
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britannicamoore
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i think they will complain when the kids start trying to fight each other around the house. It just hasn't happened yet. |
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Kouji
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Parents complained about kids fighting around the house when Power Rangers was a hit. Is Power Rangers still around? Parents even complained about violence in Pokemon of all things claiming it encouraged kids to fight, but is Pokemon still around? Proof that nobody really takes those parents seriously because they're always going to find something to complain about whether you censor a kid's show or not. Even harmless kid's shows like Pokemon were complained about for corrupting the children of America with its "occultic themes" and "promoting" the evolution theory, thus making censorship a waste of time.
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Emma Iveli
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I think that 4kids should take a page from Viz with the uncuts... I mean Alfred E. Kahn (no... that's not a typo, that's what I call him... like Alfred E. Newman... the Mad Magazine guy... "What me censor?") should have relaized that by now... I mean doesnt he know he's been compared to Emperor Palpatine? Doesnt he know that everyone considers him an idiot... ("What me censor?") He wants people to stop hating him and make the money he should go with uncuts... then again he might mess them up again like with Yu-Gi-Oh and Shaman King... baka...
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FlamingPinecone
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he did give you all uncut anime, you didn't buy it. fawhooosh! |
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Abarenbo Shogun
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Sales figures, or it didn't happen. |
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