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st_owly
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Almost. In the UK at least, thanks to a special provision in law, GOSH has the right to gain any royalties from the performance, publication etc of the play. But, they cannot refuse someone permission to use it, nor do they have creative control of use of the material. Thanks, semester on copyright law. You were actually useful. |
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HitokiriShadow
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No. A cour has always typically been 12 or 13 episodes. It has always been a mix. 2 cour shows are usually 24 or 26 episodes. 11 episodes is still basically only Noitamina shows with maybe a couple of exceptions. |
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DangerMouse
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Yeah, that stopped me as well or I would have too. Such a shame. Oh yeah, on that other note, that OP for the TV series was fantastic. I also somewhat remember that I quite enjoyed that first part of the TV series with the new adventure for Parn, Deedlit, etc. Last edited by DangerMouse on Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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WingKing
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The other problem is that even if the work itself falls outside copyright, there are other pieces of it that might not, and this is because the visuals, the audio, and the script are all considered separately copyrightable elements, and one part might be public domain while another isn't. For example, there were a number of movies that fell through the cracks in the 1970s and ended up in public domain because their owners didn't renew the copyrights on them (which you still had to do back then). One of those movies was It's a Wonderful Life, and that's why it was on television so much in the 70s and 80s and why it was one of the earliest movies available on home video after the VCR came in - all of which contributed to making it so popular, of course. Republic Pictures saw all the money they could still be making and pressed a claim in 1993 that since they still held the film rights to the novel "The Greatest Gift" that the movie was based on, that meant that even if the film's images were public domain, they still owned the rights to the script and story as a derivative work of the novel, and the Supreme Court gave it to them on those grounds. Other movies have had their public domain freedom partly or completely yanked back because someone still owned rights to the music in it. |
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Polycell
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Kadmos1
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With this, I feel that once a movie or show becomes public domain, all the trademarks and everything tied to (visuals, audio, script, etc.) also become public domain and there would be no possible way that retroactive copyright would work. |
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dizzon
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The two main characters of LoC, Lord Ashram and the dark elf Pirotess, were in the Lodoss War OVA and tv series. Long story short, because of what happens during RoLW Ashram, accompanied by his "companion" Pirotess sail South of the island Lodoss to the smaller island of Crystania to find a new home for his people. And yes, it was terrible. Not the story itself but how it was adapted. If I had one anime wish it would be that this franchise would get properly told in animation form. Besides the issues with LoC, the OVA ending didn't actually happen, the tv series said to ignore the OVA ending and pick up where the story should've left off and the animation for that (not to mention the dub) was also terrible. If only the main story would get a FMA Brotherhood type remake, I would be very happy. |
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leafy sea dragon
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Even One Piece had an out in case it got canceled though. Gold Roger never specified a location for his treasure, and no possibilities were even mentioned until the Baratie arc, which was far enough in that Eiichiro Oda could feel safe against cancellation. Everyone just assumes it's Raftel.
There's also the case with Nicolas Loufrani, who purchased the worldwide rights to the smiley face, which was previously public domain, and charges ludicrous amounts for it, so much that even Wal•Mart decided the asking price was not worth it. (Loufrani is responsible for why Wal•Mart's Rollback campaign stopped using smiley faces. Rumor has it that he was also responsible for why Watchmen went into development hell, as one character's smiley-face badge is plot important.) The Wikimedia Foundation also has to constantly keep watch over itself to protect its public domain status. And for GNU software, there's a really long contract that's solely a defense against anyone who aims to take it out of the public domain. On the other hand, when a copyright expires, it's very hard to get it back. It's a Wonderful Life is an aforementioned example that left the public domain because it was an adaptation of a work RKO also owned. If it was not an adaptation, it would still be public domain now.
Anything relating to that famous movie still has to go through Warner Bros.'s legal and/or licensing departments though. I'm guessing it's a legally separate entity from L. Frank Baum's books. There was a recent game based on the movie (and strictly on that, with no references to any sequels, literary or filmic, or any other adaptations), which was delayed for about two years due to Warner Bros. breathing down their necks, though ultimately, they pretty much let these designers do whatever they wanted. |
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fuuma_monou
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The GNU General Public License is not public domain. Rather it's a copyright license that extends certain rights to the user of the GPL'd software instead of restricting them like an EULA. Public domain software source code can easily be used to make closed source proprietary software. Similarly, Wikimedia uses Creative Commons licenses to allow the creation of derivative works. CC and GPL both rely on copyright law in order to work. |
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Kadmos1
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Concerning terms of retroactive copyright, I don't think that's much an issue for comp. like Disney and lobbying the Amer. gov't to extend the copyright lifespan. It becomes somewhat of a political issue: When a corp lobbies with or contributes to political party, the gov't may return their favor with things like copyright extension.
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Polycell
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The actual public domain-like license would be the BSD license, which is what let Apple take FreeBSD as the source of OSX. It also doesn't raise the question of whether the build system has to be under the same license(the reason why you'll find so many Linux distros use an utterly unmaintained, ridiculously out of date fork of cdrtools - Jörg Schilling insists it can when they disagree).
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leafy sea dragon
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Ah, they're not? Copyright law is so confusing... When I first got NeoOffice, its license agreement kept stating stuff like "so that you may use it with freedom" and "to keep this program out of for-profit companies' ownership" and such, so that was the impression I got. |
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Kenshiroh
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On an episode of Stu's Show (episode #396) they discussed a lot of copyright stuff. The original Star Trek TV series fell into the public domain briefly because it originally aired with no copyright notice. (More info here.)
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Polycell
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leafy sea dragon
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Hmm. I didn't know there was a difference. I just thought opposition to copyright was opposition to copyright, and that anything unclaimed can be taken by anyone who puts in the effort to take it.
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