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The List - 7 Brother-Sister Romances That Went Too Far

Thanks for affirming my suspicions that liberals like to pick and choose social issues they'd defend and condemn. "Oh would you please think of the homo's feelings? " then switching gears to, "What the fudge is this incest filth? It's personally offensive to my values!"

Blanchimont wrote:

So WHY do you think it's not acceptable, if no harm is done? If it's for the same reason some people might like the color red but puke to the color blue, then that's fine because that would at least be an answer as to the 'why', after all tastes can't be argued with. But if it's not, then what's the rationale, seeing as you don't come from a religious background?

"If no harm is done", "if no harm is done", "if no harm is done". I can easily use that as an excuse for anything: what's the matter with me coming into your house uninvited if no harm is done? What's wrong with me borrowing a police car without permission if no harm is done? "If no harm is done" is nothing more than a rationalization for a demagnetized moral compass. You can carve out niche cases where you can guarantee there's no power imbalance between parent and child or older and younger siblings and there's no chance of children, but it's just that: a niche case, worth little more than as a distraction from the true point at hand.

Also Akaneiro ni Somaru Saka, but only the anime adaptation and PC version of the visual novel...

They actually do a backpedal in the final episode with the sibling's parents hinting that they aren't actually related but they don't ever officially come out and say it. This is another one of those silly harem shows I watched all the way through for some reason.

You should probably watch Aki Sora + Yosuga no Sora so you can see what anime is available of doing without being outright hentai...At least on the former. (.)(.)

That said, you should probably check out Grisaia. The first season was an handful of wtf, they just tried to go the Amagami way with the 1 route per 2 or 3 episodes, following the common route, but ended up making everything feel cheap. Season's 2, which is just an 1 hour special, and 3 are, however, one of the best adaptations of an eroge that I know of. They cut out a lot of stuff from the VN ( I would know, tried to read the whole thing, the whole 3, in Japanese despite the fact that my Japanese skills are meager at best)but you'll never know that. If you want prime entertainment, then you know where to look for.

Anyone can disagree with me, but that's my opinion at least.

PS: Greetings from Porto, too.

PSS: I agree with you. People in the US seemingly don't know that moral compasses in literature are looser...

I think you mean "flak". "Getting flak" means receives a lot of criticism. "Getting slack" means being tolerated or accepted.

That being said, there are 2 rather practical reasons to reject incest in the nuclear family. The first, related to the disgust factor--is eugenics. The second is the potential for abuse of authority in a setting where abuse of authority is difficult to detect and should not be tolerated. It is why teacher-student relationship is so repulsive in many societies, the most extreme being China, where it is viewed in the same manner as parent-child relationship.

Ultimately yes it does ultimately boil down to a religious objection as I base my ethics upon The Christian Scriptures that does lead me to take rather traditional views on human sexuality. I was merely observing again that when ever the topic of Incest is brought up in a discussion of Anime. There are always a few such as yourself apparently who like to argue from a perspective that consent is the only thing that matters in human sexual relations.

Sorry society at large will never normalize you wanting to bang your siblings I guess.

Seriously though, this argument is like something you'd expect to hear from some pretentious dude on the Jerry Springer show or something.

Key wrote:

And BTW, religion has nothing to do with it. I'm non-religious and liberal-leaning on most things and I don't see it as acceptable.

So WHY do you think it's not acceptable, if no harm is done? If it's for the same reason some people might like the color red but puke to the color blue, then that's fine because that would at least be an answer as to the 'why', after all tastes can't be argued with. But if it's not, then what's the rationale, seeing as you don't come from a religious background?

In the Western world, incest between consenting adults is legal in France and Spain.

Blanchimont wrote:

So WHY do you think it's not acceptable, if no harm is done? If it's for the same reason some people might like the color red but puke to the color blue, then that's fine because that would at least be an answer as to the 'why', after all tastes can't be argued with. But if it's not, then what's the rationale, seeing as you don't come from a religious background?

"If no harm is done", "if no harm is done", "if no harm is done". I can easily use that as an excuse for anything: what's the matter with me coming into your house uninvited if no harm is done? What's wrong with me borrowing a police car without permission if no harm is done? "If no harm is done" is nothing more than a rationalization for a demagnetized moral compass. You can carve out niche cases where you can guarantee there's no power imbalance between parent and child or older and younger siblings and there's no chance of children, but it's just that: a niche case, worth little more than as a distraction from the true point at hand.

The problem is that it's no longer a niche, or even a genre, it's anime mainstream. The one-sided unrequited inappropriate relationship is an anime comedy short-cut. Brothers crushing on sisters, sisters crushing on brothers, teachers and student, parents and children, it's a cheap and quick way to get a laugh.

There are so many shows that I enjoy for 99% of the runtime, and just have to roll my eyes and look past the stupid incest comedy

The author forced her to end the relationship. Writing's a funny thing and it's pretty easy to tell times when "the author takes control!" plotting takes over what was otherwise natural character interactions.

And we're right back at "incest is hot!"... and the number of replies this thread has.

Power imbalance is an abusive relationship, thus abuse. The niche cases should not be judged the same as abuse (''Innocent untill proven guilty''). Also I was dealing with horizontal incest (siblings) between people old enough. Parental incest and sibling incest involving a less mature individual and a dominator already are filled with problems... To put it mildly.

Yeah except for the fact that the author is the one in control in the first place.

Thanks for affirming my suspicions that liberals like to pick and choose social issues they'd defend and condemn. "Oh would you please think of the homo's feelings? " then switching gears to, "What the fudge is this incest filth? It's personally offensive to my values!"

True, but breaking characterization to make the story turn out as intended is usually considered bad writing. If you can't get to your desired ending without sending somebody off the rails, you need to reconsider the ending.

Parsifal24 wrote:

Ultimately yes it does ultimately boil down to a religious objection as I base my ethics upon The Christian Scriptures that does lead me to take rather traditional views on human sexuality.

I am curious how you view the common cousin trope in anime, since the Bible itself appears to have no problem with marriage between cousins.