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Shelf Life - Super Lovers

Also, I read this whole thread and I don't think anyone has actually had anything good to say about Super Lovers yet despite the arguments?

I didn't say that Prism Illya didn't have other things going for it. I explicitly said the opposite. What I said was that one of Prisma Illya main selling point was the lolicon fanservice. Which it is.

Just because the lolicon fanservice is justified in Universe does not make it not lolicon fanservice. Mana transfers don't really exist. That plot point was added principally to give a reason for two twelve year old girls to have extended make out sessions.

And saying that most of the lolicon stuff is contained in the OVAs is patently false. It's most explicit in the OVAs buy is intimately woven into nearly every aspect of the show. The manga has moved more and more away from it as it's popularity has increased but its still there and the anime has made it a fundamental part of it's idenity.

I mean If you did read the whole thread...tell me how the atmosphere in it actually favor such arguments? The main person doing the review throws everyone liking it under the bus automatically favoring people who trash it.

Seif wrote:

Come on guys. I've seen every bit of Prisma Illya anime put out and those of you getting super defensive are being silly. Of course there are many people that come for the juicy Fate lore and badass fights but it's absurd to pretend like the lolicon trait isn't one of the main selling points of the show.

I'm also going to disagree here. I enjoy the the Prisma Illya side of the franchise despite the loli stuff, which I'd happily do without; in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Western fans who actually watch it primarily for the loli side are a small minority of the series' fans. It's got plenty enough spectacular action and compelling characters and plot to hold appeal without that side of it.

Concerning Keijo!!!!!!!!, Paul wasn't the only ANN staffer rating it highly that season; it was my #1 pick and someone else's #2 also.

Key wrote:

I enjoy the the Prisma Illya side of the franchise despite the loli stuff, which I'd happily do without

I completely agree.

Key wrote:

It's got plenty enough spectacular action and compelling characters and plot to hold appeal without that side of it.

I mostly agree.

I'd be willing to bet that the average western fan would much prefer it without the lolicon stuff. I know I would.

None of these things change the fact that Prisma Illya is marketed with lolicon fanservice, is made with extensive lolicon fanservice, and is widely known for its explicit lolicon fanservice.

When the average anime fan thinks of Prisma Illya they don't think "Oh, that's the show with the awesome fights." They think of Kuro and Illya making out. Because that's the bed the show's chosen to make. Getting upset at someone for labeling it as a lolicon fanservice show as if it's an unreasonable conclusion to come to is both silly and unfair.

Catsplay wrote:

Did they seriously stop it? I was waiting to buy the physical copies and I was excited it met it's goals. What happened?

Not confirmed but there hasn't been any movement on the kickstarter in quite sometime and DMP refuses to comment on why they're being silent. Numerous other DMP kickstarters have received similar "delayed" updates. Rumor is the company is going under.

Yep, Gabbo mentioned Prism Illya in this VERY REVIEW. She even now has several Prism Illya fans in this thread upset that she dared to compare it to Super Lovers and besmirch it's good name.

I would defend about 95% of Prisma Ilya but unfortunately it is partly a fanservice show.

In the end it all comes down to what people are actually bothered by right? Elementary school girls in sexual a context might be that and a relation between a 21 and 14 years old might be ok. Or just that fact that it's 2 boys, it might actually be too much since anime people are probably more accustomed to underage girl in questionable situation since they are just more common.

Throwing shades at each other is getting silly people. To a general public we all like questonable content. One is not more defendable then the other. Super lovers or Prisma. This conversation leads nowhere.

In the end it all comes down to what people are actually bothered by right?

The issue with Super Lovers that it is a show that sells itself on the idea of child grooming. That is a very specific fetish and it is not subtle about it since they even advertise that in the promotional art. That is why comparing a show to Super Lovers is usually meant as an insult and that is how it was used in the article.

I mean that's what I said. You are bothered by Super Lovers because you dislike the main relationship and see it has grooming, but you aren't bothered by the sexualized 10 years old in Prisma. So you are ok with Prisma but not SL.

Gabriella dislikes both.