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INTEREST: Made in Abyss, My Hero Academia Win Big at Crunchyroll's Anime Awards

Hiroki not Takuya wrote:

... I vote for CR's approach to having insiders suggest a limited pick and then leaving it to the public with an "other" write-in category. However, I'd eliminate the 50/50 judge/public weighing.

The judges pick the category choices which is what 99% of people will select and they get 50% of the deciding vote which means that it is closer to an industry awards show. That isn't a problem except that Crunchyroll portrays it as a popularity awards show which is how people who agree with the results tend to talk about it. This hybrid model does guarantee more political correctness in the awards show which is the intended purpose.

angelmcazares wrote:

GoldCrusader wrote: A community vote is way more interesting. No, it is predictable and boring.

Why than does Crunchyroll keep promoting the Anime Awards as though it was determined by popular vote? If people didn't care about what was most popular than Crunchyroll would change the judge deciding vote from 50% to 100% and than they wouldn't even need the online voting. I wouldn't have a problem with that change since at least than everyone would know that it is based on the judges opinions.

For example imagine that during the 2020 Crunchyroll Anime Awards that the Anime of the Year was voted on by the judges. My Lesbian Romance on the Soccer Field got 1% of the popular vote vs Vampire Space War with 99% of the popular vote. If all the judges voted for My Lesbian Romance on the Soccer Field than it wins Anime of the Year which basically invalidates the point of having the popular vote.

Crunchyroll wants the allure of a popular vote but they aren't trusting enough to allow that to happen. The feminists complained about Rem winning Best Girl last year so Crunchyroll went out of their way to not have any sexy girls in the Best Girl category this year. The careful selection is becoming more obvious with every passing year.

I get what you're trying to say, and I wholeheartedly agree that no one's taste is objectively superior than another's, but I think you are inherently more qualified simply by having watched nearly all of the shows. Not saying you can judge their quality "objectively", but you can judge them in your own mind based on your own opinion, which is something that someone who has only watched one nominee can NOT do. Their taste certainly holds equal value to anyone else, but if they are voting in a poll with multiple options, they can't make a qualified decision on the "best" of them even in their own opinion. It's the best one they've seen, but that's not saying much if you have only seen one of them.
I guess you're making the argument that they know what they like, and they wouldn't like any of the other choices, because "such and such mainstream genre" is their thing, but having known many previously picky media consumers who now watch nearly everything, I think that is more of a self-fulfilling prophecy and a close-minded transition period than anything concrete. They usually haven't ventured far enough to find the good stuff.

No, it is predictable and boring.

To have a chance of representing public opinion over that of the judges, the weighing would have to be something like 33% to the public's 66%.

While they can't really make a qualified decision on what is the best of the nominees if they have only seen one of them, I think they are perfectly qualified to choose what they believe is the best in that category overall. I don't think you need to have seen the other five nominees for Anime of the Year, Action, Drama, Slice of Life to make a reasonably informed decision on what is the best in each category, to say nothing of the most subjective categories...

As for your dissatisfaction with the choices for best girl, I'm not sure there is as obvious a choice (or choices) as last year, at least when it comes to anime... Maybe Sagiri... We'll see what happens next year, as I think 02 seems like she could be an early favorite.

I don't mean to jump in on anything here, but the reason for why shows becomes popular is because they are doing something right, right?

But conveniently enough you later mentioned Eromanga-sensei, where we can see this at play. It's an obvious case of a fairly popular show... but a failure among critics (and thus Sagiri didn't end up in best girl). With the case of Eromanga-sensei you can see that those circumstances, namely being by the author and illustrator of OreImo, are THE reason why it's popular. When you get down to its content, there's a lot of wrong (not because of "yuck, incest", it's a very shallow, whimsical and self-serving show) while the little right it did was fairly generic (which isn't going to be appreciated by critics either).
It's a show that's popular not because it did something right, critically speaking, but because a different show did something right.

This should have been a far shorter comment, sorry >_>

@ zrnzle500, I believe Chrono1000's point, which was also mine, is that if 100% of judges agreed, no amount of popular opinion could overturn the result. Adding that it is much easier to get 2/10 judges to agree than 20% of a million people, to have a chance of representing popular opinion, the weighing needs to be more in favor of the public.

This year alone I've been given pointers towards new anime I did not expect to like (Violet Evergarden, After the Rain, Laid Back Camp and A Place Further Than the Universe). All those shows actually became my favorites this season. It must be said that I'm rarely this far off in predicting what shows I expected to enjoy (based on the art style alone), where I'm usually more into the action or ecchi/comedy type of shows. However, it kinda shows how wrong one can be about first impressions. Now, I'm just one person, thus hardly a statistical significant sample, but if you don't know what the other shows is about, then that is the very definition of not being qualified to make an informed decision, because you don't know what you are comparing it to.

You are right about the 99% which is why I favor a hybrid model with different weighing. To have a chance of representing public opinion over that of the judges, the weighing would have to be something like 33% to the public's 66%. In most cases the public follows and the judge picks win but if more than 50% of the public disagrees, their pick can win. (Edit: Just saw your post, good to see you point out the problem with 50/50)

I don't mean to jump in on anything here, but the reason for why shows becomes popular is because they are doing something right, right? But it's very rare it does everything right/are the best at everything.

I don't immediately believe that any toxic feminist's voice had anything to do with this year's best girl award, but I agree that it was strange of them not to have Meme magic Satania, Tanya or Sagiri.