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CatSword
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You gotta be shitting me. People were sending DEATH THREATS over B Gata H Kei and they still stuck it through.
Why are people so terrified of this sex-positive ecchi when women are constantly getting assaulted in a lot of ecchi?
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:59 am
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Is no one going to ask why Tokyo MX didn’t read the manga first like they’ve been non stop for Funimation?
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EleutheroMaster
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:06 pm
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mangamuscle
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:13 pm
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| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | Is no one going to ask why Tokyo MX didn’t read the manga first like they’ve been non stop for Funimation? |
Read my above post. Until there is some public notification by Tokyo MX saying the reasons for the removal (or there is a leak with inside information), chances are Tokyo MX was forced to remove the series, so in a sense Tokyo MX is victim, not a perpetrator (like Funimation).
| EleutheroMaster wrote: | | I just looked up the Japanese TV listings on Yahoo! Japan. MX has replaced the Anime with a live-action show about cruise ships! |
Nice boat!
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Utsuro no Hako
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:18 pm
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Also plenty of sources in Japan still are airing this. No bubble has been burst and lewd ecchi will continue on. |
The show getting taken off the air in the single biggest metropolitan area in Japan is a big deal. Percentage-wise, Tokyo holds as much of the Japanese population as the entire state of California.
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Animegunclub
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:31 pm
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| mangamuscle wrote: |
| EleutheroMaster wrote: | | I just looked up the Japanese TV listings on Yahoo! Japan. MX has replaced the Anime with a live-action show about cruise ships! |
Nice boat! |
Nice boat
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Top Gun
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:46 pm
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| CatSword wrote: | | You gotta be shitting me. People were sending DEATH THREATS over B Gata H Kei and they still stuck it through.
Why are people so terrified of this sex-positive ecchi when women are constantly getting assaulted in a lot of ecchi? |
This isn't "ecchi," it's straight-up porn. Porn with much more plot than most, perhaps, but still porn. It should not shock anyone that the escalated content was too much for conventional licensors and broadcasters to handle.
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Chrono1000
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:59 pm
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| Aresef wrote: | | It’s a head-scratcher this show was on TV anywhere. |
Well the show is airing at 1:30 am but it is pushing the limit for what is visually seen on Japanese broadcast TV. There are still several other Japanese broadcast TV channels airing it and the uncensored version is on AT-X. Also as others have mentioned there is the Tokyo Metropolitan Ordinance Regarding the Healthy Development of Youths law that might have do why it was removed from this Tokyo broadcast channel.
| CatSword wrote: | | Why are people so terrified of this sex-positive ecchi when women are constantly getting assaulted in a lot of ecchi? |
Interspecies Reviewers is moderate in terms of what happens but visually speaking it gets close to OVA territory. From what I have seen people that continued watching it after the first episode have really liked the show.
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dragon695
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:59 pm
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| donhumberto wrote: | + 1000. This really only goes to show the absolutely moronic (and creepy AF) highs (or lows) many anime fans are willing to reach nowadays. Oh, well, I guess years and years of most shows being nothing but creepy otaku pandering trash are starting to pay off..  |
A good show always sells. It's genuinely funny, the characters are likable, it doesn't pull its punches and the art and animation is good. There is no reason to expect it not to. |
It genuinely is a positive show overall. I went in expecting to hate watch and ended up enjoying it. It is garbage that not only knows it is garbage but also manages to be likable and campy fun. It isn’t trying to sell itself as being more than it is. It is HONEST about its intentions.
Sure Zel and others are little cringeworthy, but they don’t really do the typical route of harassing every female they come across: the birdwoman really is the exception. Also, Crim goes a long way to balance out their negatives. I’d say the show emphasizes everyone is playing by the rules: they don’t try to get freebies, they promptly pay what is owed, and they don’t try to coerce unwilling sex workers. Everything is upfront and there is no sign of trafficking or exploitation. Some of the jokes, especially at Crim’s expense, may feel a bit like punching down, but in the end Crim has agency and does what he wants. What’s important is the sex workers are not shamed via reviews or to their faces. The demihuman and monster sex workers, even the halflings, all are portrayed with adult-level behavior and intellect—they clearly show mental development sufficient for consent. I mean a show about sex workers could easily go so very wrong in so many different ways real fast. This show hasn’t. It is a breath of fresh air from the typical creepy ecchi shows. 10/10 is too much, but I’d definitely give it 8/10.
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CatSword
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:08 pm
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| Top Gun wrote: |
| CatSword wrote: | | You gotta be shitting me. People were sending DEATH THREATS over B Gata H Kei and they still stuck it through.
Why are people so terrified of this sex-positive ecchi when women are constantly getting assaulted in a lot of ecchi? |
This isn't "ecchi," it's straight-up porn. Porn with much more plot than most, perhaps, but still porn. It should not shock anyone that the escalated content was too much for conventional licensors and broadcasters to handle. |
You don't see genitals during the sexual activity, on-screen penetration, etc., so no, it's not porn. Try again.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:11 pm
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| Quote: | | Read my above post. Until there is some public notification by Tokyo MX saying the reasons for the removal (or there is a leak with inside information), chances are Tokyo MX was forced to remove the series, so in a sense Tokyo MX is victim, not a perpetrator (like Funimation). |
Or maybe Funimation didn’t want to be banned from app stores for having an 18+ show? Maybe the real “perpetrator” is the anime studio taking a fairly standard ecchi manga and ramping up the sex scenes to fool everyone into airing near pornographic content?
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CatSword
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:13 pm
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| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | Or maybe Funimation didn’t want to be banned from app stores for having an 18+ show? |
I absolutely can't stand the double standard HIDIVE was forced to comply with on the App Store, considering Netflix has streamed films with real sex in them (Nymphomaniac, Love) and has never been threatened with removal from the App Store.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:21 pm
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| Quote: | | absolutely can't stand the double standard HIDIVE was forced to comply with on the App Store, considering Netflix has streamed films with real sex in them (Nymphomaniac, Love) and has never been threatened with removal from the App Store |
I assume the difference is Netflix has options that can filter out mature content. But the real issue to be upset about are the anti porn laws that are being used to crack down on mature content which is what happened with sites like Tumblr and now YouTube passing stricter regulations that’s effecting content creators.
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Animegunclub
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:28 pm
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| CatSword wrote: | | You don't see genitals during the sexual activity, on-screen penetration, etc., so no, it's not porn. Try again. |
You don't need genitals explicitly shown to qualify as porn, especially considering that (legal) porn in japan doesn't include explicitly shown genitalia anyways.
A substantial portion of the uncensored 3rd episode (the episode that broke the camels back, so to speak) absolutely qualifies as depictions of sexually explicit erotica. That's porn.
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dragon695
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Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:36 pm
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| mangamuscle wrote: |
| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | Is no one going to ask why Tokyo MX didn’t read the manga first like they’ve been non stop for Funimation? |
Read my above post. Until there is some public notification by Tokyo MX saying the reasons for the removal (or there is a leak with inside information), chances are Tokyo MX was forced to remove the series, so in a sense Tokyo MX is victim, not a perpetrator (like Funimation). |
There already is evidence, CR article quotes the complaint lodged by a viewer to an NGO watchdog, who no doubt went right to the TV station. Looks like they are playing all the Healthy Youth Ordinance notes. I will note that the censorious Ordinance was passed by right-wing ideologues in the prefectural government on behalf of Shinzo Abe and his crooked right-wing buddy who was the Governor at the time. This has nothing to do with social justice and everything to do with being upset about ideas of non-vanilla sexual desires being promoted. Abe wants babies not sex work, so I wouldn’t put it past him to have sent the letter himself.
Here is the key takeaway from the complaint which echos what Abe and crew were saying to promote the Ordinance:
| Quote: | | I feel angry at the current situation where such anime is seen by young people without any age restrictions. |
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| EleutheroMaster wrote: | | I just looked up the Japanese TV listings on Yahoo! Japan. MX has replaced the Anime with a live-action show about cruise ships! |
Nice boat! |
Nice boat!
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