Forum - View topicNEWS: Publisher Seven Seas Voluntarily Recognizes UW7S Workers Union
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Cardcaptor Takato
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FeelMyBlade
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You are correct this unionization does not apply to freelancers and contractors, which is why I expressed doubt on such statements being genuine and truthful. |
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Blanchimont
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I hope you mean the mistranslation and not the people who contacted the publisher about it. Also, glad the union issue was sorted out  . Hope everything works out going forward, it might be a bit turbulent before everything is settled down. And as said above, it's too bad it doesn't cover freelancers.
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livin_large
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[quote="Alphonae"]This is fine and all, but there's one part that concerns me.
> Staff should never be required to work on materials that make them uncomfortable. So does that mean the end of some of the more raunchy titles from Seven Seas? If I had to guess either they won't be licensed at all or they'll use this ruling to justify more changes being made to the titles they work on so the workers feel more comfortable working on them. I have a bad feeling this is just the start of more of these kinds of situations popping up 
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Nate148
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the later clearly, it's shitty and wrong |
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TsukasaElkKite
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This is fantastic news!
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Blanchimont
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There's nothing wrong raising an issue about and trying to get a mistake corrected. It would be worse NOT trying so I really don't understand your reasoning here? 
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AnimeFlyz
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Does it really count as a mistake when they double down on their decision? |
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Vanadise
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Contractors cannot typically form or participate in unions, but that doesn't necessarily mean unions have nothing to do with them; a union can still work to improve a company's treatment of contractors, and in fact, it's usually in their best interests to do so, since it's bad for the full-time employees if management can offload their work on to underpaid contractors. |
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Beatdigga
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Workers deserve protection; hopefully, this provides those workers protection without negatively impacting the product.
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lossthief
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No, it would just mean management would need to do the good faith work of: A) Knowing the general nature of what they license. "Raunchy" can mean everything from a mildly risque romcom to hardcore non-con and everything inbetween. The company licensing it has a responsibility to know where that title lies. B) Honestly and openly communicate that information to the staff working on that title. That includes the translator, letterer, and other editors. Make sure anyone working on a title knows what they're getting into before any contracts are signed. Neither of those preclude Seven Seas (or any other licensor for that matter) from licensing R18 titles. It just means they need to recognize how some works under that banner can be upsetting for some to work on, and take a proactive approach to getting the right people working on them. As for the talk of constractors and freelancers, that's also addressed in UW7S' site:
Legally, freelancers and contractors can't unionize in the same way the full-time staff at Seven Seas can, but they are being included and considered in this. |
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Guile
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I agree, customers absolutely should have the right to ask for proper services and products. However, a lot of people apparently love the taste of corporate boot and will defend companies and their anti-consumer business practices out of either brand fanatism or spite. I would certainly hope a successful unionization will lead to better products and treatment for the media Seven Seas licenses but I will reserve judgement until it becomes evident of the case. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Blanchimont
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It might do you a bit of favor reading my posts more carefully, I never said anything about contacting the mangaka. I was referring to the people contacting the publisher. That was the thing you suggested, yes? As per my first post;
The mangaka herself expressed that people direct any inquiries concerning this toward the Japanese publisher instead. And I hope people were sensible to do that. |
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samuelp
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This is very risky for them to include in their actual bargaining. A key principal to collective bargaining under US law is that the unit can only bargain about things which relate to people covered in the unit. Directly demanding an increase in freelancer pay, for example, as part of the deal could get them invalidated as a bargaining unit with the NLRB if they aren't careful. Any and all demands must relate to the well-being of members of the bargaining unit directly. They could theoretically claim that the company must "increase quality of freelance contractors in order to lower the burden on the employees' workload", for example.... but it starts to get into real gray area, litigatable issues when you go there. So I suspect that when it comes down to brass tacks, these demands about freelancers and people not included in the union itself must be dropped prior to actual negotiations even if they don't disappear from their website. (Nothing wrong with saying you're on the side of freelancers, etc. The problems start when you make increasing their rates part of your bargaining agreement. ) Last edited by samuelp on Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:50 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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