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NEWS: Anime Matsuri Licenses, Dubs 2 Anime Shorts From Nippon Animation

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No, we're talking people who are actually part of the alt-right pipeline. Feel free to view the guest list yourself. https://2022.animematsuri.com/speaker-list-dark/ Multiple Comicsgate/Fandom Menace YouTubers, people who've very directly said that minorities and women do not belong in comics and Star Wars and that everything under the sun constitutes as "going woke", two YouTube lawyers who milked the Depp/Heard lawsuit... like, it's already weird to have lawyers be actual guests of honor at an anime convention, but TWO is even more strange. The Angry Video Game Nerd having a random opinion people didn't agree with about Ghostbusters 2016 one time is absolutely nothing compared to the hate machine these particular guests generate..

I'm genuinely not seeing the issue here. If your entire reasoning for calling someone alt-right is because they hate woke media then that's a lot of people in the anime community. That's a pretty commonly held viewpoint here as well in a lot of talkback threads when the topic comes up like High Guardian Spice and Crunchyroll Originals threads. Myself include, for the record. I guess you'd call me alt-right as well for not liking that stuff?

Why are they at an anime convention? The same reason Anime Expo had Twitch streamers and YouTubers like Pokimane and DisguisedToast, or other conventions invite YouTube comedians like King Vader. Because anime conventions aren't actually about anime in the end, just nerd gatherings.. They weren't when My Little Pony was a huge fad back in the 2010s, or Homestuck back int he 2000s and those two properties dominated conventions. There's plenty of non-anime stuff at anime conventions and it's been that way for a long time. I don't see the issue outside you disagreeing with their opinions here. If people can survive a convention having a feminist panel, I think people can deal with a panel from a girl who thinks The Last Jedi is a bad movie.

I'm genuinely not seeing the issue here. If your entire reasoning for calling someone alt-right is because they hate woke media then that's a lot of people in the anime community. That's a pretty commonly held viewpoint here as well in a lot of talkback threads when the topic comes up like High Guardian Spice and Crunchyroll Originals threads. Myself include, for the record. I guess you'd call me alt-right as well for not liking that stuff?

So the big premiere of these shorts came and went last night, annnnnnnnnnd nobody's talking about them.

I saw a picture of the room they used; it wasn't even half full of people. Apparently more people went to Rekieta's panel than to the dubbed anime AM went out of their way to promote.

I'm starting to think this dubbing studio isn't going to be as lucrative as Vic McNuggets hopes it is.

"Woke media" isn't a thing that exists. It's an absurd boogeyman made up by those who are upset that their regressive views aren't considered acceptable anymore..

Awesome.. The western side of the industry can desperately use some more and new players at this point. Especially in translation and dubs.

You're explaining that it exists in this post though so it has to exist.

You're explaining that it exists in this post though so it has to exist. I agree that certain things aren't allowed in American media anymore, but they're still allowed in Japan. I generally don't consume any American media anymore precisely because of that kind of change. If my "regressive views" are only accepted in Japanese media, then I suppose that's where my attention will remain.

You're explaining that it exists in this post though so it has to exist. I agree that certain things aren't allowed in American media anymore, but they're still allowed in Japan. I generally don't consume any American media anymore precisely because of that kind of change. If my "regressive views" are only accepted in Japanese media, then I suppose that's where my attention will remain.

But I think what you and other people forget is that most anime fans align with these kinds of regressive views. Surely no one can expect the average anime fan to be shocked about a YouTuber complaining about forced diversity in comic books or Star Wars when every time a new Hollywood live-action anime adaption is cast we see the community by and large complaining about the casting. Anytime we see people trying to ask for more diverse representation in anime people are right there dunking on them and pushing back against it. The only difference is anime fans are backed up by the creators who always share those views rather than being condemend by corporations. While the official Twitter account for Star Wars might preach "Star Wars Is For Everyone", we hear about companies like Shueisha saying women wishing to enter into a male-targetted medium must be willing to understand the male audience. When DC and Marvel call people incels and chuds for complaining about the lack of sexy women in comics, you have mangaka releasing swimsuit photospreads and talking about how they love to draw boobs. I think anime fans are perfectly happy with their "regressive views" at the end of the day.. If I would agree on one thing, it's that people hoping for American media to go back to the good old days are going to be disappointed in the end. There is no putting that genie back in the bottle. These franchises are never going to go back to how they were 10-20 years ago. I would recommend they make the switch to anime and manga and enjoy what Japan has to offer instead.

"Woke media" isn't a thing that exists

There are plenty of Koreans and Chinese people who work as manga artists in Japan, but you wouldn't know that because the majority of them use Japanese pen names or Japanese pronunciations of their names.

Does "woke" not mean political correctness?

Black American folk singer-songwriter Huddie Ledbetter, a.k.a. Lead Belly, uses the phrase near the end of the recording of his 1938 song "Scottsboro Boys", which tells the story of nine black teenagers accused of raping two white women, saying: "I advise everybody, be a little careful when they go along through there – best stay woke, keep their eyes open."[9][10] Aja Romano writes at Vox that this represents "Black Americans' need to be aware of racially motivated threats and the potential dangers of white America".[4] J. Saunders Redding recorded a comment from an African American United Mine Workers official in 1940, stating: "Let me tell you buddy. Waking up is a damn sight harder than going to sleep, but we'll stay woke up longer."[11]

By the mid-20th century, woke had come to mean "well-informed" or "aware",[12] especially in a political or cultural sense.[6] The Oxford English Dictionary traces the earliest such usage to a 1962 New York Times Magazine article titled "If You're Woke You Dig It" by African-American novelist William Melvin Kelley, describing the appropriation of Black slang by white beatniks.[6]

I am sure people are aware of great artists like Boichi and Yu Kamiya but the people who hate them aren't Japanese people who dislike Koreans and Chinese. It's feminists and other progressives who hate the way they draw. When Oda showed off those pages Boichi drew of Nami and Kalifa there was a lot of nasty comments calling him sexist. But foreign artists working in the industry does not mean they're forcing every manga to have foreign characters and replace existing characters with foreign ones. They love manga the way it is. No attempts at censoring or changing it.

Does "woke" not mean political correctness? From what I have seen it seems like most American franchises is trying to do that by changing sexes and ethnicities around so I think that's an untrue statement you posted and it is a thing that exists.

I have no idea how anything you said here is related to the topic at hand, because no one was talking about what is or isn't considered appropriate content in a series. This has nothing to do with how many boobs are in your favorite manga. And I don't know who these "most anime fans" are, but the ones I know aren't like that. Maybe you just need to hang out with better people?

the fact half the very few black characters that do show up in anime are drawn as stereotypical caricatures.