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GasterTheGreat
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I've always disliked how fanpages and information has been homogenized and centralized onto Fandom wikipedia pages. Often times they have tons of misinformation or just bizarre pointless sections and 'trivia' or were flat out outdated or dead. And any attempt to correct it usually gets immediately reverted and locked down by power-hungry moderators and admins. I always try to avoid those wiki sites when possible.
It's a shame to hear GameFAQs get gobbled up again, but I've been around long enough to have been a member of LUE and remember when Gamespot bought them out in the past. They took a huge hit quality wise from that too. The forums are mostly dead these days in my experience, but they were a great source for old information. Although a lot of it has since been converted to Google Docs and other formats. And most people use YouTube and Reddit to find tips and tricks about games these days. I do hope all the old content stays archived at least. The Mario Movie trailer seems perfectly fine to me. I know some people want the video game cast but I just can't see them working in a normal movie setting. The only way Martinet would work is if they did it in the style of the Mario & Luigi games where Mario and Luigi only talk in random Italian gibberish noises. But that probably wont work for a mainstream targeted movie. |
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BadNewsBlues
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I’ll admit when I read that part of the article and read the Taimanin name I thought to myself “isn’t that the hentai about ninjas, tentacles, & other stuff that I don’t rock with”. And then I out of curiosity looked it up and found out that, Yes yes it is. So you got me there. But in 2022 at least to me it does seem a bit….tacky to judge a character’s popularity especially a female’s character by whether she has a huge amount of rule 34 art. |
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puggles
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It depends what we're talking about here. No one's going to say Peppa Pig isn't popular because there's no mountain of Rule 34 of her, but if we're talking something that was made for geeks to be attractive to and have sex appeal then it's certainly a good indicator. Like, we don't need to see the numbers to know Rebecca from Edgerunners is super popular and one of the new flavor of the month girls like Marin Kitagawa, Nagatoro, Uzaki, and all the rest of the characters before her in past seasons. Low-popular characters dont get a lot of porn, since there's no money to made doing it from artists or cosplayers. I don't really follow Overwatch but I will say it originally came out back in 2016 when you could argue Blizzard wasn't a completely creatively bankrupt company. They certainly started out fine with it having sex appeal, but as the years went on and they became more prudish and toned things down across all their games, including Overwatch It's no surprise initial characters like D'va and Mercy who were made to be beautiful took off while some very safe character like Kiriko with her really baggy outfit (which is a stark contrast to D'va's skintight bodysuit) and Junk Queen just kind of fall off and don't catch on. It could just be Overwatch 2 is a dud. But I can't judge that until the initial paid sponsorship of streamers playing it runs out to see if it's still popular or it dies off like other games that got that initial sponsorship hype. |
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Hal14
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I mean... we could just say Fan art/works. If anything that encompasses more than just porn. I'm not denying 34 art as a metric for judging popularity but does that include non-34 art? Especially non-commissioned art/works. In the pokemon fandom, for instance, I've seen fanmade plushies of new pokemon less than 12 hrs after their reveal. |
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FinalVentCard
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Again: in Overwatch's context, judging a character's popularity by the porn made of them is wholly merited. Wikipedia literally discusses Overwatch's pornographic parodies as an important part of its cultural legacy. |
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MrTerrorist
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I feel bad for the Taimanin fans who voted for their favorite character from the Taimanin visual novels to be in Action Taimanin, only to learn they lock her behind a pay wall.
As for the Mario movie, i haven't heard much of Pratt's voice yet so I gonna wait until the official trailer to give my opinion. Supposedly Pratt gave his Mario a Brooklyn accent which make sense since Mario is from New York and game Mario sound like an Italian immigrant stereotype from old tv and movies. |
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gsilver
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I like the voice that Charles Martinet does in the games, but at the same time, I have a hard time imagining the voice being used as a full speaking movie lead.
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ranran-001
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When it was announced Chris Pratt was going to be the voice of Mario, the filmmakers promised the fans "Just wait, till you hear his voice, he's worked hard on this."
Well, we have the results, and its just Chris Pratt's regular voice. No hard work required. Lot's of gaslighting by the film's PR team to sell this like it was a great choice. It wasn't. Is the trailer indicative of what Chris will sound like in the finished movie? Yeah, more than likely. I'm not going to buy into the crap that it's not a finished product and the movie has yet to come out. The movie will come out, Chris Pratt will still be Chris Pratt, it will sell millions in ticket and merchandise sales. That's about it. |
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Zero-chan
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Storytime: I was at E3 the year Nintendo was demonstrating Animal Crossing: City Folk (the same year as the disastrous Wii Music presentation and the legendary Konami press conference). They were showing off the game's compatibility with the Wii Speak voice chat peripheral (remember THAT thing?) and had Charles Martinet playing the same multiplayer remotely, in character as Mario the entire time. The only thing I remember about the AC session was, at one point, our characters were trying to catch big fish and Martinet, in perfect Mario voice, exclaimed "THESE FISH ARE PISSING ME OFF!" Truly a memory I will cherish for all time. (hi JK) |
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BadNewsBlues
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Will it make a profit though? That’s what’s ultimately going to make or break this movie and cancel or lead to scrutiny of any other potential projects if they’re any in consideration. I know I’m not the only one who remembers how the Ratchet & Clank movie’s performance killed the Sly Cooper movie.
Even Nintendo isn’t that confident considering Mario despite having speaking lines in the game actually had the one bit of dialog he had removed from the American release of Sunshine while everyone’s lines for the most part was unaltered. It’s also the one and only Mario game where the characters speak in full dialog instead of one-liners, grunts, & the other cartoony sound effects. |
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Silver Kirin
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I'm not good at making predictions or analysis of how much a movie might gross, but we could compare the Mario movie to other video game-based films and Illumination's previous movies (not counting Hop). The highest-grossing movie based on a videogame is Warcraft with $439 million, followed by Detective Pikachu and then Rampage. Illumination's least succesful movie is The Lorax, which grossed $348 million, while their highest-grossing movie is Minions at $1.159 billion. We must consider that Mario is still the most famous video game character in the world, the trailer has already accumulated several million views, and despite the criticism of Chris' performance, the majority of the audience outside gaming forums and outsided the U.S. has been very positive. If Universal manages to market the film well I think it could gross at an international level at least $500 million, and if things go well it could reach almost $900 million. But all this depends on whether the film turns out well, that there's good word of mouth and that it won't have much competition. |
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Fedora-san
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Feeling you're too old to do an entire movie is certainly a bummer, but it's understandable. Martinet voices both Mario and Luigi. He'd be having to do double duty voicing both characters in the film. So at that point you may as well go with an entirely new cast and replace Peach, Bowser, Toad, and everyone else and make it its own thing. But Charles Martinet is still in the film doing a minor role.
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Greed1914
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Fandom buying GameFAQ is not encouraging. Like the article said, the ads are utterly obnoxious. A nice, clean, and easily searchable guide is hard to beat. I could also see them deciding to purge "old stuff" that doesn't get as much click traffic. That would be a real shame considering what you can find on there has been a blessing when I was stuck on some old game or a VN with lots of branches.
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jdnation
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I don't like Mario's voice.
I'm not asking for full-on 2 hours of Charles Martinet going WAA-HOO!!! But Mario does have a long-recognized accent and manner of speaking, and they should've tried to find something that matches closer to his recognizable cartoon voice. I don't know if you can even blame Chris Pratt for this, as he was probably instructed to just use his natural voice, likely because some Nintendo suits were worrying about stereotyping Italians or something dumb. But I think Mario sounding a bit like some wiseguy would be hilarious. They could've gotten any one of the guys from the Sopranos to do it. |
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Covnam
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The Gamefaqs sale is pretty sad to see. Definitely dreading what the site will become.
I hate celebrity casting. I can't imagine a huge swath of people who wouldn't see an animated movie (aimed at kids) suddenly changing their mind because a celeb they like is voicing in it. I can understand the desire of execs to want to use it for marketing for an unknown title, but Mario definitely didn't need it. That change from gatcha to buying characters sure was a monkey's paw wish, huh? I agree that gatcha is pretty bad and predatory, but at least there's a chance (even if it's less than 1%) to get that new shiny thing for free. When they sell them there's usually a 0% chance. Either way they're pretty exploitive. While I can't say I don't play them, we'd probably be better off if this micro transaction games went away |
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