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bontamoko
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:06 am
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Has anyone else actually read this trash? The manga is literally about a 9 year old girl that desperately wants to have sex with her adult teacher, and attempts to make it happen (by getting naked for him, writing sexual calligraphy in class etc). More than that, like the blog stated, there is an incestuous (cousins having sex is wrong -_- I don't care what culture you are from) relationship. Not to mention that the main girl (remember, 9 years old) has a 9 year old girl that wants to get in her pants (I didn't read far enough to see if that actually happens -_- I wouldn't be surprised though). Someone at the licensing studio would probably have gone to jail had this crap actually have been published. This is a glaring example of the barrage of lolicon material that has been attempting to make it's way onto North American shores (I know, alot has already made it, but to my knowledge, none has actually ever been obvious porn like this manga is). The creator of this manga has got to be atleast a little screwy in the head not to realize that what's being created is not a beautiful story about love (which is how this crap is being promoted -_-) but a story that is more or less the tried and true "Highschool anime about a girl in love with her teacher" mixed with Bible Black, and then instead of Highschool girls, it's 9 year olds.
I could rant all day, and I know that the pro lolicon brigade will soon attack from all angles (Since I'm more or less implying that for liking this manga, they are degenerates) but I will just say that I am glad the mistake on the part of Seven Seas was caught, and that this piece of garbage won't be hitting our shores. Shame on the author.
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ArielTsuki
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:18 am
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bontamoko wrote: | Has anyone else actually read this trash? The manga is literally about a 9 year old girl that desperately wants to have sex with her adult teacher, and attempts to make it happen (by getting naked for him, writing sexual calligraphy in class etc). More than that, like the blog stated, there is an incestuous (cousins having sex is wrong -_- I don't care what culture you are from) relationship. Not to mention that the main girl (remember, 9 years old) has a 9 year old girl that wants to get in her pants (I didn't read far enough to see if that actually happens -_- I wouldn't be surprised though). Someone at the licensing studio would probably have gone to jail had this crap actually have been published. This is a glaring example of the barrage of lolicon material that has been attempting to make it's way onto North American shores (I know, alot has already made it, but to my knowledge, none has actually ever been obvious porn like this manga is). The creator of this manga has got to be atleast a little screwy in the head not to realize that what's being created is not a beautiful story about love (which is how this crap is being promoted -_-) but a story that is more or less the tried and true "Highschool anime about a girl in love with her teacher" mixed with Bible Black, and then instead of Highschool girls, it's 9 year olds.
I could rant all day, and I know that the pro lolicon brigade will soon attack from all angles (Since I'm more or less implying that for liking this manga, they are degenerates) but I will just say that I am glad the mistake on the part of Seven Seas was caught, and that this piece of garbage won't be hitting our shores. Shame on the author. |
Don't you dare. This site already had enough debate over this title (and you seem to miss the point of it already. I mean WTF, Rin's friend only have an innocent crush on her, not wanting to get into Rin's pants).
FYI: Marrying cousins isn't wrong, even in the states where half of the states approve first-cousin marriage. It's even not listed as incest in the Bible and other religious text as well.
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bontamoko
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:35 am
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I don't normally rant about manga's, but after the glowing review of the manga that the American licensor gave, I tracked it down in a local manga cafe. Boy was I surprised when not only did the 9 year old GET NAKED in the middle of class, but then asked (quite literally) for the teacher to fill her with his hot c**. Reading a little bit more, I came across the other girls in the class groping each other and shopping for Bra's (9 year olds!). Your Japanese is a little bit off if you didn't realize that one of her friends is in love with her (but not "Aww, how sweet" love, but rather a disturbing sexually charged love *again, these are 9 year olds*)
But then again, why am I bothering. I predicted the pro-loli brigade would attack and above this post is what I was talking about.
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Swissman
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:35 am
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bontamoko wrote: | Has anyone else actually read this trash? |
Yes.
Quote: | I could rant all day |
You could, but you're off-topic, beating an already dead horse and nobody gives a damn about your opinion anyway. You want to flame? Go elswhere.
Edit: Start working on your japanese properly: "Nakadashi Kibou" doesn't mean she wants *him* to cum into *her*, because there's *no clear subject and object* in this phrase. It can mean she wants anyone to do that, not especially the teacher.
Japanese language can be wonderfully ambigous, right?
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bontamoko
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:47 am
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It could be, if she wasn't thrusting the banner in his face. At which point he screams because he realizes she's written it with regards to him. Context is everything, and it doesn't take a genius to realize that he was the subject.
And the issue of "Being on topic" I'd say the manga being blatant lolicon, and the author not realizing that it's the reason the manga is being scrapped for the US, is directly on topic. I wrote the description of the manga because alot of comments were "It got canned for incest? That's it? Wow, that's not really that bad" which are obviously from people that haven't actually read the manga. So I figured it would be a better discussion if they knew what the manga contained.
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Swissman
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:59 am
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bontamoko wrote: | It could be, if she wasn't thrusting the banner in his face. At which point he screams because he realizes she's written it with regards to him. |
Personal interpretation and conclusion, not a fact. That's part of the humour.
Quote: | Context is everything |
Bingo.
Quote: | And the issue of "Being on topic" I'd say the manga being blatant lolicon, and the author not realizing that it's the reason the manga is being scrapped for the US, is directly on topic. I wrote the description of the manga because alot of comments were "It got canned for incest? That's it? Wow, that's not really that bad" which are obviously from people that haven't actually read the manga. So I figured it would be a better discussion if they knew what the manga contained. |
Well, why didn't you explain yourself in the first place? Now it just comes across as a blatant excuse for flaming. You had plenty of oportunities to flame in the older threads concerning the actual content, now it's too late. Don't beat a dead horse.
To any moderator reading this: Lock the thread, please.
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bontamoko
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:06 am
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It's nice how an opinion turns into "flaming" in the eyes of someone with an opposing opinion.
And yes, to any mods, before this turns into a listing of everything wrong with the manga (Like when she asks for sex from her teacher as a prize) please do lock the thread.
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Swissman
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:07 am
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bontamoko wrote: | It's nice how an opinion turns into "flaming" in the eyes of someone with an opposing opinion. |
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Quote: | (Since I'm more or less implying that for liking this manga, they are degenerates) |
No comment.
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omar235
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:02 am
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Eh why don't you guys just stop bringing it up and fighting about it, there was no reason to lock the thread til bontamoko said something, and Swissman had to say something back. Just leave it alone bontamoko...and don't argue about it with Swissman.
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fighterholic
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:04 am
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bontamoko wrote: | It's nice how an opinion turns into "flaming" in the eyes of someone with an opposing opinion.
And yes, to any mods, before this turns into a listing of everything wrong with the manga (Like when she asks for sex from her teacher as a prize) please do lock the thread. |
I'd say the best thing to do would be for you to stop talking about this, because you obviously missed out on the last four weeks of arguing that we had on this subject on ANN.
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Zac
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 1:34 pm
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Swissman wrote: |
You could, but you're off-topic, beating an already dead horse and nobody gives a damn about your opinion anyway. You want to flame? Go elswhere. |
No one "gives a damn" about your opinion on this either, especially since you've stated it a hundred times. Believe it or not, this is not a haven for people to defend Nymphet against all comers and scream at anyone who dares disagree, even though these threads seem to be turning in to that every time it comes up because we have a handful of very vocal supporters who pig-pile on these threads and bully anyone who feels differently. We allow ALL opinions here, and the four or five of you ganging up on anyone who says something you don't agree with is not going to be tolerated.
All sides of this argument have been tossed around over and over again, there's no point in rehashing it, and everyone's just going to try and get in the final word until this thread is locked, so rather than let it all happen over again I'm just going to close it up.
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