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NEWS: Australia Fines Man for Importing Pornographic Anime

Porcupine wrote:

I'm gonna say it again so that I attract the wrath of all the idiots here who keep mentioning "counseling". Counseling is FAKE, it is for losers!! It's a stupid profession and everyone who does it is a quack!!

Hmm, then what did I go to counseling for those oh four months?

Free mints? because the circus wasn't in town so you thought you'd just be a loser and waste your money? Couldn't have been to get advice and help dealing with emotional issues. Of course not.

Maybe those people don't have family, hell maybe that "family" were the perpetrators in the first place. Since counseling is so [expletive] useless how would you suggest curing a pedophile or stopping them? Suppose your fiance' is murdered and your life is ruined, what's your answer then huh? What's your answer then to all the millions with some sort of mental illness who need help controlling themselves?

With treatment, sex offenders are far less likely to re-offend

Treatment can enable offenders to recognise patterns in their behaviour that make committing further offences more likely and to avoid risk situations, lapses into risk behaviour or relapse into re-offending.

You still haven't answerd me when I asked what kind of message does that tell society if real child porn is banned but animated isn't. It's the same thing! If real child porn is banned because it's wrong to have sex with a child, then why is animated child porn available? It sends the same message. You know what, don't answer. This topic is too old.

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I'm sorry, but I just have to respond to this because, well I DID answer your question. I even provided a totally awesome analogy. Let me try and sum it up again: society doesn't encourage something by letting it be legal. Cigarettes are legal, but everywhere society is telling you not to smoke or to get help in quitting.

I'm not going to comment on the counseling issue because I've never been to a psychiatrist, and I don't know anyone who has. I really don't know very much about psychology.

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Does society encourage people to smoke because it's legal?

If real child porn is illegal, wouldn't they make animated child porn illegal also? It may be something society doesn't encourage but it's hypocritical to allow the real stuff banned but not the animated when it causes the same affect on people. People are still jerking off to the animated stuff as they do to the real stuff.

You're making the illogical assumption that child porn is banned due to its "influence" rather than what is necessary to make it. Which if true, would mean rape porn and 'fake' child porn with young looking actresses pretending to be underage would also be banned. But they aren't. Violent video games also haven't yet been banned.

It's pointless arguing with you because you continue to ignore very basic facts and continue to pull out "facts" with no real proof. "Oh, a couple of people did this, so clearly all pedophiles are like this"

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I agree, it's about time to lock it

Then why are people classified as sex offenders when they have possession of child porn?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/5389756.stm

There, not all paedophiles go after child. Besides, I didn't say all paedophiles were like that I just showed proof that child porn isn't enough.

Maybe, but if I'm not mistaken there have been movies about OR having a side plot of high schoolers having sex over here. Don't forget that Arcueid isn't human and there's no way in hell that she's going to be susceptible to the laws that humans have laid down. Clearly them having sex was made apparent in the anime, but if doesn't show them in the act, what grounds do you have to attack it? No I don't think this promotes lolicon or sex with minors because that segment lasted no more than 30 SECONDS.

Simply saying something is true is NOT proof.