Forum - View topicNEWS: Bandai Visual USA Gets Shigofumi, True Tears Anime
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Faraz
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Oh, so because anime is "imported luxury" it should be priced higher? First of all, the luxury part has no bearing. Yes you can live without it but you can also live without TV, movies and games and anime is sometimes 10x more expensive than those other "luxuries".
Second, the imported part means absolutely nothing (specially in the case of a Japanese company selling their own product). Last month I bought The Witcher from my local gaming store. It is a game made by a Europian company and I paid the same amount as an EA produced game. The same goes for disks made by British or even Japanese makers. This is not an import car we're talking about. They don't need to put the DVDs on a freighter and have em shipped to the US. They can upload the content and have everything burnt right here. Goodpenguin, as for downloader's justifications that you talked about, take it for what it is. If the disks are priced in line with other entertainment available, people will pay for them; if not they'll use fansubs. Them not getting food, cars and beach houses for free does not change the fact that anime producers can be making more money off of them but they're not due to their own stupidity. People won't pay for an over-priced anime whether they have access to fansubs or not so the fansub part of the equation doesn't effect how much Bandai makes from that group; Bandai's own pricing does. It's not crack, people aren't addicted to it so if they can't get it at a reasonable price they'll seek other forms of entertainment. I asure you, a great deal of people who watch fansubs will not start buying DVDs if at some point fansubs become unavailable. So getting rid of them isn't going to change the bottom line that much. You change the bottom line by employing smart marketing strategies such as expanding your viewer base (by not charging $60 per hour of entertainment) and using new technology to give your product more exposure (using iTunes for example). Japanese producers basically dug their own grave by gouging US destributors on licensing fees and over-pricing a product that was still in its customer base infancy. Damnit, I apologize for turning this thread into a fansub debate. 
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poehitman
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Been battling them going on 3 years now. FINALLY (2 years after filing my appeal) I am getting my hearing in front of a judge in a month or so. I've been injured going on 8 years now. For the first 4 years, I sold stuff on eBay when my pain level permitted it. But it got to the point where it became unprofitable to continue.
Did I say I had a right to it? No. But them trying to put out fansubbers isn't going to win them any more sales. In fact, it's going to hurt them even more. I'm telling you why I have no qualms or ethical reservations about watching fansubs. I'm also telling you why selling sub only DVD's is going to be a very unprofitable venture. Even noobs like me can make a DVD out of fansubs. Like I said before. The main selling point of R1 anime DVD's is that it has an english language audio track. Selling sub only DVD's is essentially selling fansubs. And as some people said before, it's sad when fansubs are higher quality than what the licensor puts out.
Ok, I have no idea what you said there, but whatever floats your boat.
spoiler[Ending the series right in the middle of the final battle without a clear winner] is NOT an ending. That's a cop out and sadly it's becoming more common these days. That being said, I like my endings to have FINALITY. I don't want it to be left up to my imagination. I want to KNOW what happened. Non-endings like Star Ocean EX's are cop outs because the writer doesn't have the balls to decide on an ending and risk people hating it. Unfortunately, people also hate it for not HAVING an ending.
I wouldn't even pay that much if it HAD an english language audio track. That price is absurd for 2 episodes. |
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CCSYueh
 Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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poehitman-good luck. I'll cross my fingers & think good thoughts for you. I'm all for people getting disability. My husband died a year after he went out on it (about 4 months after the appeal went thru). I figure he might have lived longer if he'd gone out sooner. Maybe not. I'll never know. But if you can't work, don't. Health is important. Even with a disability, working can compromise what health one does have.
There was a win in Star Ocean. Sort of like Desert Storm-the primary objective was reached, but the real goal (in the eyes of many)-Hussein- remained. As I said, it really looked like they intended a second season whether they did or not. Which is life--life doesn't always wrap up neatly. Maybe the killer gets prison on manslaughter instead of murder in the first. BV's looking for the collector-like our Star Trek fans, etc. I would never pay $200-$400 fir a figure. some people fo.
Sorry about that. THe issue becomes is it worth the money, or do you rent? In certain markets entertainment is the same, but other venues-no. I know everyone brags about getting a season of Lost for $50 or less, but if you go for a more obscure title like my Brisco County, you'll pay decidedly more than $50 (I paid $70 on sale). They've also discovered the Special Edition-throw in a few extras & charge $10 or $20 more. I remember Sliders costing a pretty penny. The titles I'm buying from BV are titles I didn't expect to see licensed. I really didn't see anyone bringing SRWOG over so to me they're bringing over titles there isn't a large demand for. Something like Naruto they know will sell well, they can actually price lower (as Geneon was. Viz was when I last noticed, also) I was buying Saiunkoku & Shonen Onmyoji & one was $25 list & the other $30 list. Did you actually see anyone picking these titles up, particularly in this environment? |
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loka
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aye. there's some principle in economics or something that states when a thing's price is pretty influential on whether people buy it, you will always make way more revenue by lowering the price. |
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Veoryn87
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This is kinda sad. I marathoned the first 5 episodes of True Tears and ended up loving it, but that price is ridiculous.
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Ingraman
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If Bandai would put subtitles on their R2s more regularly, I'd consider importing them, but my PS3 would prefer R1 discs. I have purchased R2s a number of times, but mostly for movies or OVAs. R2 TV series get expensive.
I haven't noticed anything that's otaku-only about Shigofumi. Many people might find it to be too slow and lacking in action, but it doesn't seem to be targeted at too narrow a range of viewers. True Tears is less of a general audiences sort of program. |
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