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NEWS: 17 Hit or Stabbed, 7 Confirmed Dead in Tokyo's Akihabara


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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:40 am Reply with quote
Hon'ya-chan wrote:
Mohawk52 wrote:
DragonsRevenge wrote:
That's insane. This is the type of thing you see only in America.
It's nearly a daily occurance here in Britain, usually drugged up, and/or drunken teenagers.


Chav's and ASBO's??
Usually.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:54 am Reply with quote
From The Toronto Star:
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Yesterday, as mourners, some weeping, piled Japanese comics, flowers and other mementoes at the scene.


I never knew manga would be something to pay respects to the dead.

Edit: helps if I add the link http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/440228
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:44 pm Reply with quote
Peter Payne adds some details in his latest blog/ad mailing:

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Usually there's nothing like a Sunday afternoon in Akihabara. It's fun to roam through the many electronics stores to see the latest devices, or head into one of the anime shops to browse figures or doujinshi comics. The blocked-off street (known as "pedestrian's heaven") is so full of shoppers and tourists and fans in cosplay giving "guerilla live" street performances that it feels like a great big carnival. This happy image was destroyed on Sunday when a crazed man drove a rented truck into a crowd then jumped out and started attacking people with a large survival-type knife, eventually killing six men and one woman and injuring ten others before police could take him into custody. Although rare in usually-peaceful Japan, these bizarre knife attacks do sometimes occur, and they're called torima, roughly translated as "a devil who just happened to be passing by." Sunday's tragedy called to mind an attack on children in an elementary school by a deranged man in which eight children were killed, which in an eerie twist happened exactly seven years before this attack. All Japan is buzzing about the possible motives of the attacker, a 25-year-old temporary factory worker from Shizuoka Prefecture, who may have been set off by a mistaken belief that he had been let go from his company when this was not the case. All throughout the world and the web, people are expressing sadness over the terrible tragedy.


He also enclosed a pic:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:53 pm Reply with quote
Video on YouTube pointing out people who were waving and taking pictures during live news feeds. They are now "wanted". By the impressive view count I guess the appropriate thing to say is, "Be careful what you wish for. You might get it."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZUq9P0uwg

EDIT: Video taken down. Here is a link to Japan Probe's article on the video:
http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=4836


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:58 pm Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
So who wants to bet someone will be tasteless enough to cosplay as the guy?

Considering the whole Nevada-tan phenomenon, that's a sucker bet. Of course someone will cosplay as him, sooner or later. It's the cosplay equivalent of pointless trolling.... (*ahem*)

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Hon'ya-chan



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:53 pm Reply with quote
rti9 wrote:
Video on YouTube pointing out people who were waving and taking pictures during live news feeds. They are now "wanted". By the impressive view count I guess the appropriate thing to say is, "Be careful what you wish for. You might get it."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMZUq9P0uwg


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This is a private video. If you have been sent this video, please make sure you accept the sender's friend request.


Link to another NON-PRIVATE vid??
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:47 pm Reply with quote
Whoo! The news media sinks to even deeper lows! The killer didn't have a girlfriend, so naturally no girlfriend = potential psycho killer! As an added bonus, it's not just the previously mentioned FNN, but also NTV and Asahi!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:36 am Reply with quote
An article from the Asahi Shimbun: http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200806110280.html
Also, it can be pointed out that since he did post on an internet board that he was going to commit the crime, he has pre-meditated murder against him. There's no way he's escaping the death penalty. On top of that, he has bought the wrath of probably the entire otaku culture in Akihabara if not Japan itself. This isn't the first incident I've heard about in Akihabara, and sadly I don't think it's going to be the last.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:38 am Reply with quote
Anyone want to translate what Satoshi Kon said about the incident? Carl?
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GATSU wrote:
Anyone want to translate what Satoshi Kon said about the incident? Carl?


Well' it's not much of a translation tool I have, but if someone can do better, please...

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2008 June 13th (Friday)

This one week “of role” « We pray the happiness in the other world of the people who in the Akihabara tragedy have become dying. The people of the family and the friend who are left probably will stop 悔 悔 as the feeling which cannot stop think. We would like to display the mind of condolence deeply. Even with Tuesday seminar phantom killer incident becomes topic. Seminar raw one person went to the day Akihabara, when so, also the track/truck which was used in crime viewed to.
There being business in Ueno, you say that after that it went to Akihabara. If order of the destination differs, when you think that oh you cannot know name high in the one of the victims, it makes [zotsu]. He touched to the information of phantom killer incident in Ueno, it seems, but that time “as for the criminal two, as for one person arrest. Already as for one person, it was the information which is called in the midst of escaping” that.
The strange reality is felt in the place where such incorrect report flows. Because as for me as for utilizing Akihabara almost it is not, looking at the image of reporting, you do not remember strong reality, but even then it starts projecting “the town of the Japanese somewhere” compared to, by the reality which you are moved “the background” is large and, weight is felt that much even in the existence impression of incident. Increasing, the one of the students whom you take charge, time as for incident as shortened the distance suddenly, is moved via the fact that, it differed in the day locale. The person that some person it is after the incident, it was the telephone which verifies safety from the parents' home in seminar raw.
Perhaps, shy story, but only through the influence to your own appearance such as that, the reality of incident cannot be felt. From something, the reality cannot be felt at all in ideal way of the criminal and crime. By his when becoming the victim, it is not strange with you think, but as for becoming the similar assailant the imagination is not attached completely and, the air which is the same horizon does not make. But, in criminal and boy seminar raw year is close, like the criminal, it drops out from society and, if it becomes kind of matter of concern which is cornered mentally, the imagination “perhaps by your become so,” on the same horizon as by your a certain way you can think, that you say. Perhaps that fear can be felt in the imagination such as that it is healthy thing. Seminar raw one person like this talked concerning incident. “The latest crime is made to agree upon to this it has been similar to [arashi] of the bulletin board” viewpoint.
Of course it was not a story that, you could agree upon the thing of incident and the criminal, it is kind of by the fact that such viewpoint is done to become easy to grasp somewhat image of the whole incident. Because as for me as for utilizing the bulletin board of the net almost it is not, (the extent which is not written positively you put out with even the bulletin board of your own place and (laughing)), you cannot have reality in those such as exchange and [arashi] with the bulletin board, but the composition, “bulletin board and [arashi]”, the kind of air which you can understand did.

7 people die, perhaps, but you call “Akihabara”, when you think [arashi] behavior to of the “celebration”, assuming,) ribald that motive of crime (there are such a ones, you think that perhaps, 10 people heavily are not possible either the phantom killer incident which owes the flesh wound and to make the [arashi] behavior of the bulletin board simultaneous, it is the same as [arashi]. The generation goes down from something, following, just that the fence of every day which is called every day and generally known actuality at rhinoceros berth pace probably has melted. Being this year, there was several phantom killer incident.
As for the incident which the impression which it just remains, is similar to memory does “the Shinagawa and door surpassing Ginza phantom killer incident (the crime by the high school student of 16 years old)” “Tsuchiura phantom killer incident (the man of the game mania of 24 years old)”, “the piercing dropping incident of Okayama (18 year old boys)” and so on it is. The criminal of the Okayama incident like this had testified. If “the person is killed, it can go to the jail. When” the Tsuchiura phantom killer where anyone is good “when the murder we would like from being possible, whoever to be,” the Shinagawa sort “anyone from calling, wants to make everyone murder”. Annoyance 10,000,000 “boom” is. Calling boom, if it is bad, the “chain reaction” probably will be? Being this year, as the suicide by the hydrogen sulfide continues, these past phantom killer incidents as for having become the cause which recalls the “Akihabara phantom killer” are thought that you are not wrong.
Therefore it accumulated, the latest incident as one “of the result” furthermore the possibility of recalling the following phantom killer powerfully became high, probably will be. I that some fear had done moderately whether it does not mean that already one and two cases, similar crime happens within year, but is, seminar raw one person like this predicted. Because and age to be close are that the student whose also affinity to the net is high says compared to much criminals such as me whom “you think that it happens within one week,”, strange persuasive power is remembered. The fact that prediction does not hit only is prayed. It had being able to tell the seminar raw reaction regarding Akihabara phantom killer incident interestingly, but how saying, the first surprise is the notion that where the person who does not know this incident is. Not knowing, in order for the one which is to be more difficult, you can think, but is. When I you say, touch to honest place day bulletin, as for the thought which you think as “one audience before TV” “and?” was. As for the shock like echo being late, as arrived, you think. First as recorded, after entering into this year, the phantom killer incident which occurred still is new in memory. It is impressive for testimony of the especially criminal to resemble. You are moved by this “anyone is good” hard side symbolize lines. As the criminal says, like this you think the victim other than the meaning “of being possible to be whoever”. “And is possible to be whoever” the air where personality or personality of the criminal who is not visible does.
Especially, you call to the criminal of the Akihabara phantom killer, feature, or as “” cannot feel deviation, on the other hand as a “phantom killer criminal” necessity, even the feeling, figure where it can stick feature and the important matter which also model should call well after the fact you do. Perhaps, the language 弊 it is, but there is no about the “unexpected characteristic”. It is cheap, it appears in cartoon and the movie of the hand, it is the feel like common setting. Perhaps, a more terrible expression, but there are no overs and shorts presently “, as an image of the kind of person who becomes the phantom killer”. Is, it passes. As for this as not been my alone feel, you think. “To “it is low excessive inclination “affinity of contract worker the virtual net world” of the income which pants in differential society” “excessive self denial of game and animation” and the revelation desire which happens to have contrarily” “of absence “society the extinction”, of the intimate person” ““it is the usually placid person, the theater characteristic which chooses at one time good child” Akihabara” and so on and so on ......The world is easy to understand, “image of the phantom killer criminal”.
There probably is also a side this the media selected in order to arrange in the image which “is easy to understand in anyone” due to the instinct, but so was not and you can feel the aspect where “originally it was such symbolic person truly”, strongly. Therefore the human who coincides to those images which are recognized in the world very, it isn't to be recalled as the phantom killer? If those which are applicable to the image, very that the fearfulness that “anyone was good”, is felt. Benefit 々 being strange, it is the expression which has the language 弊 with you think, by the fact that the recognition that, but “the phantom killer criminal is this kind of person”, spreads in the world, among the humans who are image and the circumstances which are close to that, even even your own responsibility you shifting to the responsibility of the world and society, “it is good to the kind of person who holds grudge doing the phantom killer it isn't to have given the choices, shelf”?
For example as for that “when committing suicide, if the hydrogen sulfide is used, it is good it is the same as the recognition, shelf”. Because we would like to commit suicide, in order it was not to choose the expedient, hydrogen sulfide, it was shared “for expedient” to recall the “execution person”, you think. Therefore with saying, separately I was to question, rivaling, to be e.g., the media which reports incident is bad, is not. Simply it is the sufficient thing which such feels the reasoning which is inverted. The composition that, “and may be whoever,” “expedient” recalls the “execution person”, is. In the past at each time the incident which resembles existing incident happens thought “imitation incident”, but touching to the latest phantom killer incident, that you felt strongly whether so it is not to be. The external form which discharges from reporting and wide show “information” increases following, on the other hand “the unregistered characteristic = criminal may be whoever”, that you think. You say that “this in the image unregistered characteristic = criminal may be whoever”, peculiarly it is the same age as the latest criminal, the phrase which is recorded in crime declaration of the “liquor ogre rose” is remembered. “Transparent existence” you read accidentally, 'the meaning of living' (the Ueda travelogue work/the Iwanami new book) with in the book which is said, there was the description regarding liquor ogre rose incident, that for “transparently” the interpretation, “as for the unregistered characteristic = criminal may be whoever”, that as the bottom done, you could think.
According to this book “transparent existence”, when “you produce by your, it is disliked, be sure to be hard on. Therefore, somehow without producing by your, you must keep living,” “the young person whom you think that, “self transparent conversion” the human whom it keeps doing “the transparency” is,” that you say because it is accepted from the other person. In that way, and it kept you decolorizing by your intentionally deodorizing, it means that “the transparent humans are interchangeable”. This interchangeable transparency “the criminal may be whoever”, that can think the clogging similarly. You call very the transparent certain and others, phantom killer such as that it isn't to be able to play “role”? So, “role”. “The role, phantom killer” is and “the role, suicide person by the hydrogen sulfide” it is. It recorded first, “the recognition which is shared to the world”, is kind of something which it is possible to call “role”.
Therefore, you were cornered to a certain circumstance, the recognition that (with was convinced) the person “plays, those “roles” it is something which” spreads, the air does whether it does not mean that the result and such incident which are shared to the world stop cutting off after. When “expedient” recalls the “execution person”, you wrote, but like this the person who rephrases is close to image. “Role” that “it plays and casts the hand”. Perhaps, the figure of speech which propriety is made excessively crime of “theater type”, but it is sad in the latest incident, with the strange feeling which you are moved by simultaneously in order for there to be here, you can think fear. You call, if the phantom killer” ““role” is acknowledged, extent and the following casting which are done probably will be calculated. We fear that. It was one timewise star, at the time of committing suicide you call, briquet suicide person” “the “role” was replaced in the “hydrogen sulfide suicide person”.
Perhaps “the phantom killer”, when replaces in the “gun firing at random demon” and the “bomb demon”. You become the criminal, “it will play and the hand” how probably will become, but is not to know, but life is taken, to a “partner part” it does not accumulate. The seminar raw one person meant such a thing. “(Being the kind of circumstances which become the phantom killer criminal,) like this doing in the school without, you just can study, luck is good certainly you think that,” like the. You called the phantom killer et. al, to there are no either times when it is recalled “role”, they just can continue your own “role” without either in unhappier “partner part” than something being cast, the fortunate air does.

{MODERATION NOTICE: We all know how to Babelfish something, so please don't dump huge amounts of text into the forums like this, unless it represents a personal effort at translation. Just stuffing the output of an online translation program into a post is lame. Besides, online translation programs handle Japanese very poorly, especially texts containing nuance, which this does. Don't do it again. -- abunai}
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:49 pm Reply with quote
I wonder if we could blame his mother for her "education" methods, like locking him outside the house in winter (remember that's Aomori, the northernmost prefecture in Honshū). In an interview with Shūkan Gendai, Katō's younger brother called her mother having "twisted love" on Katō, such as forcing him to eat dinner dumped on newspaper on the floor.
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