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tygerchickchibi
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 Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:52 pm
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Michael Bay?
I liked Transformers, though. You didn't?
Was I supposed to give you some rebuttal for Bay? I just didn't really care about it? I always thought people hated him. >_>;;;
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fighterholic
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:26 pm
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Every pseudo fan apparently hates Bay since he headed the Transformers project, and how he "botched" the movie. All sorts of things are attributed to it, which I think is kind of sad that we all can't be peaceful about the fact that we got a movie that was pretty good, despite other adaptions of series or games that I have seen.
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doctordoom85
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:45 pm
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All I know is that I saw Transformers on its 2nd opening day (like 11 in the morning). The theater was packed mainly with people in their early to late 20's (AKA people who grew up with G1). At the end, after Optimus' speech, the audience stood up and applauded.
I'd take that as a very strong sign that Bay succeeded in pleasing the majority of the G1 fanbase. The majority of the flamers seem to be the uber G1 fanboys who can't take any sort of different take on Transformers (sadly, this will often include other series as well, such as Beast Wars, which was IMHO the greatest TF series of all).
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:47 pm
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fighter: It's pretty good for a Bay flick you come into with low expectations, but wretched for a Transformers movie. [I'm still loyal to the '86 one, and moreso now because of that pompous jackass having the gall to align himself with the "old-school" directors who actually cared about scripts.[Rant against L.A. Times ad featuring him.]]
doctor: The people who liked that dreck like all of Bay's vanity projects. But no one who likes good movies(i.e. those which don't lower your IQ or overwhelm you with bad camera-work and editing) likes Bay.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:54 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | | fighter: It's pretty good for a Bay flick you come into with low expectations, but wretched for a Transformers movie. [I'm still loyal to the '86 one, and moreso now because of that pompous jackass having the gall to align himself with the "old-school" directors who actually cared about scripts.[Rant against L.A. Times ad featuring him.]]
doctor: The people who liked that dreck like all of Bay's vanity projects. But no one who likes good movies(i.e. those which don't lower your IQ or overwhelm you with bad camera-work and editing) likes Bay. |
Did you just praise the 1986 Transformers movie, and then criticize other films for lowering your IQ with bad camera-work and editing in your next breath? Did you read that movie's actual reviews, from people "who like good movies," in 1986? The 1986 Transformers movie was and still is a fun, guilty pleasure. A fun, guilty 2-hour toy commercial pleasure.
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:39 pm
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testor: If it's just a guilty pleasure, Paul Thomas Anderson wouldn't swipe one of its songs for Boogie Nights.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:53 pm
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| GATSU wrote: | | testor: If it's just a guilty pleasure, Paul Thomas Anderson wouldn't swipe one of its songs for Boogie Nights. |
Boogie Nights included Transformers: The Movie's "The Touch" because the song is a guilty pleasure. Just ask the song's writer and performer, Stan Bush:
"Also, the movie Boogie Nights featured "The Touch" in a scene where Mark Whalberg is trying to resurrect his career as a rock singer. It was deliberately bad and was kind of a spoof on the eighties."
http://tformers.com/Interview-Stan-Bush-Rocking-Transformers-Again/6697/news.html
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Hon'ya-chan
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:22 am
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| tygerchickchibi wrote: | | Michael Bay?
I liked Transformers, though. You didn't?
Was I supposed to give you some rebuttal for Bay? I just didn't really care about it? I always thought people hated him. >_>;;; |
Bay could've made a better DBZ movies, because he can add in his trademark "explosions."
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:48 am
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testor: Perhaps, but Bush wouldn't have a career without it, since it was ironically viewed by nostalgic fans as an example of the best of the 80s. And Anderson himself would probably agree, since that's one of the few positive moments of the film.
Anyway, new link which hasn't been shut down.
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fighterholic
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:04 am
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| doctordoom85 wrote: | | All I know is that I saw Transformers on its 2nd opening day (like 11 in the morning). The theater was packed mainly with people in their early to late 20's (AKA people who grew up with G1). At the end, after Optimus' speech, the audience stood up and applauded. |
That's how it was too. Me and my brother actually went to go see it the first day it came out, and there was a line extending all the way out to the other side of the theater. We all didn't exactly stand up but the crowd was cheering when Optimus Prime said his own name.
| GATSU wrote: | | fighter: It's pretty good for a Bay flick you come into with low expectations, but wretched for a Transformers movie. [I'm still loyal to the '86 one, and moreso now because of that pompous jackass having the gall to align himself with the "old-school" directors who actually cared about scripts.[Rant against L.A. Times ad featuring him.]]
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And now that I think about it, it was all of your stupid comments that actually made me enjoy the movie more. At least I know that I was able to enjoy it unlike some hardcore fanboy that I know.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:20 am
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| GATSU wrote: | | testor: Perhaps, but Bush wouldn't have a career without it, since it was ironically viewed by nostalgic fans as an example of the best of the 80s. And Anderson himself would probably agree, since that's one of the few positive moments of the film. |
Do you realize that you just contradicted Stan Bush's statement and your own?  Sometimes, it's easier to let Gatsu undermine his own off-topic argument.
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:25 am
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testor: I didn't say it wasn't just a guilty pleasure, just that it was more than that for fans. And I didn't disagree with Bush's original intentions for the song, but he clearly realizes how much it ironically meant to people who watched the show, or he wouldn't continue playing it at concerts.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:28 am
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| GATSU wrote: | | testor: I didn't say it wasn't just a guilty pleasure, just that it was more than that for fans. And I didn't disagree with Bush's original intentions for the song, but he clearly realizes how much it ironically meant to people who watched the show, or he wouldn't continue playing it at concerts. |
Wow, you keep digging that hole, Gatsu. Just do it somewhere where it isn't off-topic, please?
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:47 am
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testor: I wasn't even the one who brought up the other film in the first place, but you're just dragging it out, because you get off on nit-picking.
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testorschoice
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:58 am
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| GATSU, yes, GATSU wrote: | | you're just dragging it out, because you get off on nit-picking. |
That's irony.  Now, please apply your criticism to yourself. That's all we ask.
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