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DKL
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Oh... that would've been interesting; haven't seen his remake of Initial D (I'm told so it is anyway), but I did enjoy Better Luck Tomorrow.
I actually liked Scorsese's movie a lot better: it had a lot more personality than the original and was just a lot more entertaining to watch (this observation is kinda funny in a sense that I actually saw Andy Lau's movie much earlier than Scorsese's remake... like, I thought that there would be a bias there). In fact, film critic Noel Vera has an excellent take on the issue: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/noelmoviereviews/message/605 (and, personally, I think that Matt Damon and Di Caprio are perfectly competent actors who get a little too much flack for being pretty boys [go watch Sidney Lumet's The Verdict... Paul Newman is ridiculously handsome, despite being kind of an old geezer, but hot damn that was an excellent performance]... Damon was excellent in Gus Van Sant's film [Good Will Hunting] and Di Caprio was pretty amazing in Scorsese's The Aviator) ========== That said, so like... there's all this talk about controversy... I'm assuming people haven't seen Munich? (which I considered a lot more brutal than anything that came out of Oldboy, which, when you think about it, is more entertaining than thought-provoking... but then, I haven't seen it in forever, but I did like it) That said, as far as brutal action goes, the hallway sequence is impressive, but kinda pales in comparison to Alfonso Cuaron's elaborate action sequences in Children of Men (where the takes are ridiculously long). ANYWAY, it is completely possible to do justice, but, truth be told, I can't expect it unless they actually attach someone competent (which might be hard since the right people for the job might be either doing something else or are not interested... personally, I'd find it kinda cool if the Coen Brothers re-did this; they're clever enough and have the right balance of humor and horror *though, not as good as Tim Burton, admittedly*)... But like, I hate the mindset where everyone goes off on how supposedly incompetent American film-making is just to get on the high ground (it's almost as ignorant as assuming that anime has no competent storytellers). I mean, seriously... what the hell is everyone watching that it makes them think like this? |
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Da Games Elite
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Okay, the first thing I thought of when I saw "Remake of Oldboy" (because that caught my eye before the first half of the article for some reason), I imagined someone like Quentin Tarantino or maybe Martin Scorcasee (sp? I can't spell his name for my life...) was going to handle it. Maybe David Cronnenburg or even, perhaps, Stanley Kubrick. And then my eyes landed on Steven Spielberg and Will Smith...and my hopes just dropped to the bottom.
Okay, Steven Spielberg is a great director of summer blockbusters. No one can possibly deny that. But when it comes to emotional drama, aside from Schindler's List, Spielberg lacks experience. Sure, he could pull it off great. I mean, ever since I heard Spielberg was attached to that Ghost in the Shell remake I've been having hope that he was trying to go for a more philosophical/dramatic approach with his movies, almost like a Schindler-esque revival. Now I'm sure that either A) Spielberg's trying his hand at heavy philosophy masterpieces or B) Spielberg is talking out of his ass. I mean, maybe Will Smith can be a great move. Think about it: the audiences love him. If they spoiler[keep the incest in and show Will Smith having sex with his daughter ]the audiences will be mortified just as much as Will Smith is. This could be a genius route to go. However, I sincerely doubt they'd want to mortify America like that, which means that the quality of the film will go down. I'm keeping my hopes up they'll go the former route, but... |
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DKL
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Saving Private Ryan (which, according to a war veteran I spoke to whose father was in WWII, is eerily accurate)? Amistad? And again: Munich. (seriously... go see that movie; the Olympics hostage sequence alone makes it worth watching) ... I dunno... personally, I think Spielberg is perfectly competent, albeit kinda inconsistent (but you gotta admit: the guy has range). If he did Ghost in the Shell, I wouldn't mind (though, it'll be hard to top Oshii's take on the subject matter... well, Innocence anyway...) |
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firedragon54738
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wow hollywood now stealing movies that not even that old yet
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britannicamoore
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This sounds like something that could actually be done well in fact. I'm sure the idea that a man was spoiler[held captive for 15 years without knowing why] would make an awesome movie. And Smith seems to be good at pulling out good "good in the sense of big selling" movies.
This is something that could be done well...well. All movies have the potential to be well. This just sounds like something that could be done better. It's not a big selling series that was remade completely different from the show. the more I talk about this, the more excited I become. As for the subs thing believe me, its not going to kill me to read them. Actually, I may check that movie out before I see this one if it ever comes out. As for that one part, they've done worst in movies. spoiler[ They could keep it in, and just not say anything about her being who she is, and just leave it up the imagination on who she is. like having a stuffed bear or something he gave her whens he was little around. Personally, I wouldn't even be mad if they stopped it before it got to sex and he realized who she was; so long as they may have made out.] I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed. |
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Da Games Elite
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Ah! Completely forgot about Saving Private Ryan! My bad! You're right, though. Although Munich didn't strike me as dark or emotional as Oldboy (although I do admit that Munich was a very intense movie), Private Ryan certainly gives him a little bit more optimism. 
Don't get me wrong, I love Spielburg movies, but most of them feel more like summer blockbusters. He has dramatic gems, yes, and I love summer blockbusters, but Oldboy is more of an art film than a blockbuster. As for Ghost in the Shell, it was announced that his studio would work on it and that he was going to have a role in production, but I don't know whether he was supposed to direct it or produce it. Supposedly he's a fan of the original, and I'm assuming it's going to be a remake of the original film. That I want to see. That I'm sure can be pulled off. Oldboy gives me a few more concerns due to the more controversial elements. |
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jdnation
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Look on the bright side... at the very least this will end up better than the Bollywood version...
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Bluebeard
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I wish Michael Bay would make a Fresh Prince of Bel Air Movie starring Zac Effron & Hannah Montana to get Will Smith back for all the things he helped butcher. Maybe if someone ruined something close to him, he'd think twice about taking anything other than an original screenplay next time. I'm thinking of I Am Legend specifically, among others. I also blame the public who will go see any movie he's in, thus encouraging his casting in ANY role available. He could be in a movie about a talking ham and it would pull in 25 Mil on it's opening weekend.
I don't think I've even been back to the theater since Batman... so there's likelu an even greater problem with movies than just remakes & Will Smith. |
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HellKorn
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I'm not one for knee-jerk fanboy reactions... but I'm not seeing what good can result from this.
Spielberg doesn't interest me as a director anymore, and he's never struck me as the kind of guy to handle this type of material to begin with. And the inclusion of Will Smith in this just baffles me. |
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TheVok
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Yup. He's way too young (40) for one of the major plot twists to be feasible. (Maybe not TECHNICALLY too young, but realistically too young.) Last edited by TheVok on Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:51 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Hannish Lightning
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Why the hell are you so butt-hurt? The only awful Will Smith movie is Wild West. And I am so freaking tired of hearing the word "butchered", butchered this butchered that butcher butcher butcher butcher it lost it's meaning. Can't you butt-hurt fanboys come up with a new word? |
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enurtsol
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It's not stealing if they met the rightsholders' selling price for the adaptation rights. Otherwise, might as well complain that the rightsholders sold out then. |
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HayateTokidoki
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It would be nice if Americans as a whole would start having an open mind about things made outside of this country. A movie like Oldboy should be released here and should get just as much attention as any Hollywood movie does, but it should be released in its original form.
They should've said, "Hey, this is a great movie. We need to market this and bring it out in the US because people should watch this movie." Instead, we always get, "Hey, this is a great movie. We need to remake it with a couple Hollywood names attached but essentially pretend it doesn't exist." I have nothing against remakes of older movies that would significantly benefit from new technology. Beyond that, it'd be nice if Hollywood would quit rehashing old ideas and come up with something new for a change... |
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TheVok
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It was. |
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Moomintroll
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That might be rather a hard directorial choice to pull off give that Kubrick died nine years ago... |
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