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John Thacker
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:23 am
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Quote: | The anime won't run ceaselessly for years, but will run in seasons. |
Isn't this more a "late night versus Saturday morning (or Sunday family hour)" thing? It's a similar type of effect, but the ratings for big shows are also all way down from twenty years ago, and there's media fragmentation there too, again like elsewhere.
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:25 am
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At one point, there was a lot of talk about how Shonen Jump really made a big mistake by not taking Attack on Titan when Isayama pitched it to them. I wonder how much having Attack on Titan would have actually impacted their circulation numbers, and whether this so-called "mistake" is what has motivated them to start taking on titles that wouldn't normally be associated with the Shonen Jump brand, such as The Promised Neverland.
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:44 am
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Despite the print mags having a decrease in subscriptions, official digital manga reading platforms help WSJ stay popular.
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Paiprince
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:55 am
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I happen to be one of those who don't mind newsprint (I like the scent of the pages.) so this downward trend is concerning. The ads themselves are also appealing to me in that they're really flashy and out there like Japanese commercials. And I dread to think what will happen to the ones with gravure idols on the covers. Always find it interesting how something that can pass as a Sports Illustrated magazine loses that qualification by having manga characters plastered next to them.
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GATSU
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:11 pm
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And yet, strangely enough, I still see actual physical newspapers being delivered to my neighbors' houses in America.
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Greed1914
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:25 pm
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Interesting to read that the shift in readership is part of Shonen Jump anime going toward a seasonal approach. I can't say I mind that from a structure perspective.
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John Thacker
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:26 pm
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BodaciousSpacePirate wrote: | I wonder how much having Attack on Titan would have actually impacted their circulation numbers |
Almost surely no real effect, for the reasons Justin mentioned. Attack on Titan is published in Bessatsu Shōnen (a spinoff of Jump rival Weekly Shōnen), which has a total subscription a drop in the bucket compared to Jump. It's news that Jump went under 2 million; Bessatsu Shōnen is down around 60-70 thousand. Clearly Attack on Titan by itself wouldn't arrest Jump's fall, when Jump already has 30 times the circulation of the magazine that hosts it. Jump is still the number one manga magazine / phone book, and their decline hasn't been as bad as some others. The whole market is decreasing and moving to other media.
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ultimatehaki
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:47 pm
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Quote: | The anime won't run ceaselessly for years, but will run in seasons. |
Would love for this to become more mainstream. Skip out on all the horrendous filler and might even get anime with full adaptation except it being a glorified advertisement.
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mgosdin
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:53 pm
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Another thought, all those bulky weekly magazines cost a pretty penny / yen and if you aren't buying those anymore, well you've got some change to spend on maybe buying the collected manga instead.
The described feel of the Japanese weekly magazines is like what I recall the "pulp" SF & Fantasy magazines of the 70's being like. It would smear and was obviously pretty cheap, but I still bought them every month.
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Ushio
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:00 pm
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ultimatehaki wrote: |
Quote: | The anime won't run ceaselessly for years, but will run in seasons. |
Would love for this to become more mainstream. Skip out on all the horrendous filler and might even get anime with full adaptation except it being a glorified advertisement. |
Except doing seasons has always lead to a much faster decline than continuous airing does.
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Brand
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:11 pm
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Also of note most of the manga magazine still well outsell any floppy single issue American comic by massive numbers but they keep on making those (even if at this point it mostly seems to be trial material for movies).
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Яeverse
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:43 pm
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Surprised the article didn't mention that the magazine is offered online in jpn, and with a color option, or that the rise in online sells of books is on the rise in jpn as well.
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:06 pm
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In some ways it reminds me of how in the west some people will buy individual volumes of comic books or wait for trade paperback collected volumes to come out. I used to read Shonen Jump digitally but all the series I liked and voted for ended up getting canceled and reading things digitally has become progressively harder with my bad eyesight so I stopped.
That and I simply like physical media more than anything else glad to hear sales of actual compiled volumes of Manga are selling well though.
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:42 pm
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Parsifal24 wrote: | In some ways it reminds me of how in the west some people will buy individual volumes of comic books or wait for trade paperback collected volumes to come out. |
On a personal note, I used to be really into US superhero comics, and at one point was buying 8-10 every month. In hindsight, I wish I had bought them in trade paperback instead of collecting the individual issues. That way, instead of sitting in a bunch of boxes that I haven't opened for years, they could be sitting on my shelves.
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perroloco
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Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:30 pm
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Answerman I am very interested un knowing where you got Oricon numbers from almost 20 years ago, I thought Oricon didn't exist until around 10 years ago?
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