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#861208
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Gacha is gambling. That doesn't mean it's wrong, it just means you need to be aware of what you're doing, and exercise self control.
My favorite mobage is Yume100 (100 Sleeping Princes in the Kingdom of Dreams). It's a bishounen-collecting puzzle otome game. I usually skip the stories. I barely buy gems at all, but I have a nice amount of top-rarity princes just from strategy, events, etc. Also the art is gorgeous. It also has enough to chew on intellectually with strategy. TsukiPara, on the other hand (the TsukiPro mobage) lost me after a short time. I got back into it when the new anime started, but that lasted for less than a week. It has a lot of flaws, and I'd be surprised if it lasts. Then again, TsukiUta has a lot of hardcore fans, so it might last. I will probably play the UtaPri game when it comes out even though I don't like UtaPri at all. Rejet also released a new idol mobage recently, but with all new characters. It has an interesting rhythm game with only one button, but with flicks and other different gestures, I think... I haven't played I7 (and from the anime, I don't think I want to); Ensemble Stars, like... doesn't even have a rhythm game. ........ they should make a Kamigami no Asobi mobage with more gods. Like, a bunch of gods from all sorts of mythologies and places, made into bishounen characters. ....This needs to happen! How do browser games fit into this? Touken Ranbu is both, I think. Has anyone here played Icchibanketsu or Bungou to Alchemists? Last edited by #861208 on Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:23 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Vaisaga
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There's only one thing you need to have a successful mobile game: Waifus. Lots and lots of waifus (and huzbandoz). I whale for waifus.
Of course things don't always work out but you have to understand what you're getting yourself into. I famously spent $4000 on a single gatcha to get a specific character but never got her. It sucked to be sure but in the end it was my choice so I have no one to blame but myself. I'll still whale but it's all about picking and choosing what you want. Right now I play Tales of Link, Sword Art Online Memory Defrag, Fate/Grand Order, and Tales of Rays. I've spent lots of money on the former two, but nothing on the latter two. Tales of Rays is extremely F2P friend so I've no need to spend, and FGO rates are so terrible I know buying quartz won't help anything. It's all about knowing what you want and how much you can spend. |
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Primus
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1. License out popular IP in demographics known for mobile usage.
2. Make visually attractive F2P game w/ gambling mechanics. 3. Release game. 4. Profit. |
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FilthyCasual
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There's only two things you need to make a mobage successful.
1) Disgustingly exploitative rates. 2) Waifus great enough to make people fall for said disgustingly exploitative rates. |
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Greed1914
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Exactly. For me, the concept of paying on the chance that I might get something I want in the game never really clicked because it didn't seem too far removed from playing a slot machine. It's one of those things that is fine in moderation, but it's also easy to lose track of how many times you've played because this time might be a winner. |
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NeoAnkara
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The only Japanesse mobage that I play right now is Bandori Garupa. The character is very likable, event story is great and the cover song is getting better by each release.
Gacha rate isn't too terrible either considering 3* event gacha isn't that hard too get though 4* is noticeably harder equal to it's stat. Though lately I get two 4* event gacha in a row. I hope I'm not triggering greed censor here by saying that I want to get my third 4* in a row. Also I get all of it without spending any cent on the game. Somehow I will always get to pull gacha once(10x pull) for the duration of the event. The game is just that generous when giving star for gacha. |
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AksaraKishou
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Granblue Fantasy is also a bit of this. It's Mobage that's more of a browser game than anything else. The android app, for instance is a browser with a skin, more or less. That said, you can play it on your phone's Chrome, so you can't say they're lying. xD Still a pain in the ass tho, cause on your pc, it's much faster.[/b] |
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TsukasaElkKite
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I'm a biiiig whale in SAO: MD (must...have...ALL MY WAIFUS AND HUSBANDOS!) What waifu did you drop 4 grand trying to get, and what game? FGO's rates are as bad or worse as SAO: MD's are. I barely ever pull for weapons in SAO anymore except if the characters they match with look particularly spicy. The most recent step up weapons banner is the one I've pulled on this week. |
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st_owly
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I am idol trash. I've spent a lot of money on School Idol Festival but I have some many beautiful waifus it's worth it. Looking forward to the UtaPri game too. The guaranteed UR pack they did not too long ago was worth every penny.
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Puniyo
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Mobage basically capitalise on people's impatience. I play quite a few, but I've never dropped a penny on anything that can be acquired for free, no matter how much extra time and effort it takes. Considering mobage are my 'fidgeting games' (things I play to pass time while waiting for things), I'll get there eventually. Many other people will think the time saved is worth the microtransaction though, and it builds up.
Love Live, Sailor Moon Drops, FE Heroes, Dokkan Battle, Pokemon Go, etc. are all mobage that you never need to spend a penny on to be able to enjoy if you have a little patience. (I have bought a few outfits on Love Nikki, admittedly, but only during dollar sales) Gacha are one of the lesser evils of gambling, at least you do actually get something out of it no matter what. That said, I'm a lot worse with real-life gacha than gacha in games. I'm that person with the phone weighed down by straps and charms. Last edited by Puniyo on Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:36 am; edited 2 times in total |
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luffypirate
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I love mobile gaming. Right now I play Final Fantasy Brave Exvius and Terra Battle 1 and 2. It’s been where all my disposable income has been going for a while (starting to get back into anime...honestly doesn’t excite me like it used to)
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Lord Oink
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Jokes on them, I just wait til the CG art gets uploaded if I want to see my waifu in torn clothes or a swimsuit. Especially if the knuckleheads in charge of NA localization censor the artwork. |
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zrnzle500
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I strictly play free since I spent more than I wanted to on a gacha in a game I played a few years ago, though $150 doesn't seem that bad compared to what some have spent here. Though I would use a iTunes gift card on microtransactions if I was given one, but I never really get them anymore anyways.
While I would like higher rates, I think F/GO has been satisfactory enough playing for free - though I did pull a Tamamo-no-Mae during the Halloween event so that might make it not seem so bad. I've played it every day but one since it came out in English. It's probably the only mobile game that I've bothered reading the story, so while it hasn't been perfect, I think they've done a good job. The only thing I want, other than better rates, is more of the story, and I think that speaks well to the game. I'll probably keep playing for free, though I may be tempted if they come to an event with Okita Souji or Ishtar. edit: Speak of the devil... |
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AksaraKishou
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Ishtar's gacha will take place in around 1y and 1 month. Tho you could wait 2.5y for her Free Summer version. xD Also, F/GO has a New Years gacha that is a bit more expensive, but gives you a guaranteed 5* of a class of your choosing, so if you wanna break the f2p streak, that's most likely the bets time to do so. |
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Vaisaga
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The game was Tales of Link and the unit was swimsuit Alisha. She's not a particularly great unit or anything but we all know when it comes to waifus that doesn't matter. In ToL 5 star pull rate is 6% and at the end of it all I did walk away with 9 Soreys, 8 Mikleos, 3 Sophies, and 1 Muzet that were also featured. But obviously none of them were Alisha. It was also around that time I got into a bad car accident which prevented me from getting in the top tier of Alisha's ranking event. So that was a pretty bad time for me and I'm being completely serious when I say that the Muzet I got saved me from despair. Never belittle the power of a waifu. I finally gave up pulling when they released a pick up summon for the previous swimsuit banner that had a 5 star pool with featured units only. I thought that meant this second one would get the same treatment and I'd have a better chance at Alisha. It never happened, though. A few months later for the first anniversary they had this 5 time only banner that guaranteed at least 1 special costumed character for each pull. It was that day when she finally came home. Again, not the best unit but you can bet your ass I used her when I could. And then the other day they released a bride Alisha who I also needed to have. Thankfully I got her solely with free stones. It helps that recently Tales of Link has been having a lot more guarantees on summons. Summon enough times and they'll straight up give you the unit you want. Games definitely need that sort of thing to be successful. Be good to your user base and they'll be good to you. So far as SAO is concerned, I'll whale but it's usually limited to just clearing out the sale bundles. If an event really pisses me off due to difficulty/cheapness I tend to throw money at it in my rage to give myself a better chance. But right now I have over 1300 free diamonds and my intent is to stay over 1000 until a unit that I really really really desperately want comes along. Recent banners haven't been that appealing to me so I've mostly just been doing the first half off multi on the main banner, and then on the rate up banner if there's a unit I kind of want. On the sports banner I wanted Liz or Leafa so I waited for their rate up. Did an extra multi because I almost had enough record crystals, and those record crystals gave me sports Asuna amusingly enough. Managed to place 1st in the ranking event thanks to her so it worked out. I've done enough weapon pulls that I have a decent variety of r4s to work with. I'm more likely to exchange if there's another weapon I want; though thanks to trading away my dupes I have no r5 weapons. Fate/Grand Order gets a bit complicated for me, though. Unlike the above two games, FGO gives out very little in the way of free currency. Might take me a month to scrape up enough quartz for a single multi. This means I get very few chances to try to get featured servants and the terrible rates means it's entirely possible I'll be stuck with what I have now for eternity. As you can see I have nothing particularly noteworthy. Even my sole 5 star is universally considered to be pretty meh. Everyone else is pulling these top tier servants while mine are so mundane they're barely used as supports (my friend point numbers are pathetic). So it does get me wanting to pull more which would normally be enough to get me to spend, but with the terrible rates I know throwing money at it won't help much so I'm able to hold back. That temptation is still there, though, but I've decided I'll only spend money on a 100% 5 star banner. In the end, it's up to you to self regulate. I see all these people whining and moaning about getting scammed or whatever but it was their choice to pull. Sure, it's partially the game's fault for dangling some nice cheese in front of you, but if you know there's a chance it's a trap but chose to fall in anyways then that's on you.
Lucky... Fox waifu is best waifu. Honestly I'd be happy with any sort of servant that I could brag about getting (still hoping for Jeanne, though). But I've been told I should actually start saving rather than pull as soon as I hit 30 SQ. |
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