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REVIEW: Skate-Leading Stars


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Яeverse



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:41 am Reply with quote
wow this was my favorite anime of the year, I loved it so much.

Maeshima and Sasugai had so much growth over the course of it. Dont know what the reviewer was watching.

The music was top notch (that theme they use for doing the competition intro is always great to hear) and the eng dub was great, liked it a bit more than the JPN.
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Takkun4343



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:53 am Reply with quote
In his defense, he was directing Back Arrow at the same time, so you can see which of the two projects took up more of his attention and effort.
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JoelBurger





PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:25 pm Reply with quote
It didn't help that the show aired at the same time as SK8. Because the way they tackled their subject matter was like night and day. SK8 wasn't afraid to show off and be flashy, to have all these wonderfully animated skateboarding moments (even in just incidental scenes of characters messing around as they're going to school). Whereas Skate Leading Stars just exuded a lack of confidence in itself, like when it constantly skipped over training sessions. It felt like they were afraid to show any skating unless they were absolutely forced to, because they knew they couldn't make it look particularly great.

Also, was just watching Bakuten, and had a realization: I'm liking that show so much because it's willing to be light and fluffy, but have a strong core. Whereas this show felt like it was obligated to include melodrama and character conflict, and just made the characters unlikable and/or uninteresting as a result.
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Яeverse



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:37 pm Reply with quote
JoelBurger wrote:
It didn't help that the show aired at the same time as SK8. Because the way they tackled their subject matter was like night and day. SK8 wasn't afraid to show off and be flashy, to have all these wonderfully animated skateboarding moments (even in just incidental scenes of characters messing around as they're going to school). Whereas Skate Leading Stars just exuded a lack of confidence in itself, like when it constantly skipped over training sessions. It felt like they were afraid to show any skating unless they were absolutely forced to, because they knew they couldn't make it look particularly great.

Also, was just watching Bakuten, and had a realization: I'm liking that show so much because it's willing to be light and fluffy, but have a strong core. Whereas this show felt like it was obligated to include melodrama and character conflict, and just made the characters unlikable and/or uninteresting as a result.


I disagree with comparing them, both shows had different aims and focuses and it isn't like Sk8 is without fault (its plot was hard to take seriously with everyone just accepting dudes just running and swinging skateboards at people without penalty).

I dont even know why Bakuten is being compared, it makes more sense at least to sk8 since both are team sports, but sk8 is single focused and about a dude getting over his grief.

Really dont understand what you're getting at. sorry.
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KitKat1721



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:59 pm Reply with quote
Oh Skate-Leading Stars. You existed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:19 pm Reply with quote
I honestly thought it was a perfectly enjoyable show. I'm usually not a fan of Noboru Kimura's writing, but I think he did a nice job with the character interplay, even if the sports part didn't make a lot of sense.

Also, while it's fashionable to crap on J.C.Staff nowadays, I give them credit for not taking the easy CG route with the ice-skating scenes. They never reach the heights of Yuri on Ice's best moments, of course, but their animation quality is quite solid and consistent. All in all, a better sports show than most I've watched over the past 3 years.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:29 pm Reply with quote
>You may be one of the current anime industry's top directors, with excellent shows like Planetes, Maria the Virgin Witch, and Code Geass to your name

He has literally no involvement with "your name/Kimi no Na wa" so that should probably be edited.

Also the comparison with SK8 doesn't make sense and SK8's plot was riddled with issues like the non-sensical rules of people running with a skateboard and smashing faces in, to entire plotlines with characters that in the end, quite literally did nothing and had no reason to exist.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:47 pm Reply with quote
Kirigea wrote:
>You may be one of the current anime industry's top directors, with excellent shows like Planetes, Maria the Virgin Witch, and Code Geass to your name

He has literally no involvement with "your name/Kimi no Na wa" so that should probably be edited.


They're saying Taniguchi has shows like Planetes, Maria the Virgin Witch and Code Geass "to his name", as in he can be credited with directing those shows. It has nothing to do with Your Name.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:54 pm Reply with quote
Kirigea wrote:
>You may be one of the current anime industry's top directors, with excellent shows like Planetes, Maria the Virgin Witch, and Code Geass to your name

He has literally no involvement with "your name/Kimi no Na wa" so that should probably be edited.

Also the comparison with SK8 doesn't make sense and SK8's plot was riddled with issues like the non-sensical rules of people running with a skateboard and smashing faces in, to entire plotlines with characters that in the end, quite literally did nothing and had no reason to exist.


You might want to read that sentence again, and more closely. And yeah, two shows about pretty boys taking part in a quirky sport, I can't imagine how anyone could ever make a comparison between the two. Next thing you'll tell me is that there are parallels between Skate Leading Stars and Yuri on Ice, and one likely led to the other being made or something.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:04 pm Reply with quote
JoelBurger wrote:
Kirigea wrote:
>You may be one of the current anime industry's top directors, with excellent shows like Planetes, Maria the Virgin Witch, and Code Geass to your name

He has literally no involvement with "your name/Kimi no Na wa" so that should probably be edited.

Also the comparison with SK8 doesn't make sense and SK8's plot was riddled with issues like the non-sensical rules of people running with a skateboard and smashing faces in, to entire plotlines with characters that in the end, quite literally did nothing and had no reason to exist.


You might want to read that sentence again, and more closely. And yeah, two shows about pretty boys taking part in a quirky sport, I can't imagine how anyone could ever make a comparison between the two. Next thing you'll tell me is that there are parallels between Skate Leading Stars and Yuri on Ice, and one likely led to the other being made or something.


Except the comparison you're making ultimatelyhas little sense because the shows' aims and focuses are completely different. You seem to want to unironically lump any show with "pretty boys" together when as others have mentioned, (and is really not that hard to see), they don't have anything in common beyond that, they're literally in completely different genres.
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Kirigea



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:07 pm Reply with quote
Oggers wrote:
Kirigea wrote:
>You may be one of the current anime industry's top directors, with excellent shows like Planetes, Maria the Virgin Witch, and Code Geass to your name

He has literally no involvement with "your name/Kimi no Na wa" so that should probably be edited.


They're saying Taniguchi has shows like Planetes, Maria the Virgin Witch and Code Geass "to his name", as in he can be credited with directing those shows. It has nothing to do with Your Name.


I see. I'm used to seeing the Japanese promo materials/BDs which all have it in lower case so my mind didn't register it otherwise.
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JoelBurger





PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:34 pm Reply with quote
Kirigea wrote:
Except the comparison you're making ultimately has little sense because the shows' aims and focuses are completely different. You seem to want to unironically lump any show with "pretty boys" together when as others have mentioned, (and is really not that hard to see), they don't have anything in common beyond that, they're literally in completely different genres.


The completely different genres of "sports show about skateboarding" and "sports show about skating". One has a board, it's completely different. Ignore that they all trace their DNA back to the success of Yuri on Ice, as another sports show about a rarely talked-about sport. Clearly the Skate-Leading Stars you watched was a sci-fi epic or something, maybe connected to Your Name.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:13 pm Reply with quote
Яeverse wrote:
Dont know what the reviewer was watching.

I guess she was watching the same show I was, because I agreed with everything she said. After only 3 episodes, I could already see them frantically cutting corners on the animation, with extended shots (yes, more than one) of the arena's ceiling air conditioning ducts while they're practicing, or random cars in the driveway, or exteriors of the building, or closeups of costumes or not-talking faces - anything to avoid showing movement. That's fatal for a sports anime. One week the main skating gig was reduced to colored lines drawn out against a black background to show their paths, a move I could forgive as an easy-to-understand illustration, if they had made any effort at all to animate the characters performing the moves they'd diagrammed.

But what ticked me off the most was they never told us what their score was! I was ok with the "suspense" of the time skip, but I figured they'd circle back to show us the final score and all the emotional beats that would go along with that, but they never did. Trying to guess what they'd get was practically the point of greatest interest for me, like Hayato calling everyone's scores from watching them practice. But then they whiffed on that one thing I wanted from them. Laughing I was so distracted by ~who won? are they going to show us how that played out?~ that I couldn't even absorb the afterstory they chose to belabor instead.

Still I'm glad some people really liked it. I hate to think about series that no one seems to like at all, after all the work they put in on it, so I'm happy to know this isn't one.
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jroa



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:37 pm Reply with quote
Considering the author of the review does openly mention Riki Fukushima, who was the director of this project while Taniguchi served as chief director, I don't think anyone should blame him in isolation for the results. It's more of a shared responsibility.

Especially because, all things considered, Taniguchi is doing a better job with Back Arrow right now. Regardless of whether people watch it or not, because anime fandom sucks, that other series has been much better directed than Skate-Leading Stars and generally more enjoyable too.

Takkun4343 wrote:
In his defense, he was directing Back Arrow at the same time, so you can see which of the two projects took up more of his attention and effort.


Indeed. While I like him trying new things, it ultimately didn't work out in the case of the skating anime.
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BlueAlf



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:33 pm Reply with quote
The first time I realized that Taniguchi can flub was when I first saw Active Raid. That's when I understood that his strength lies more in his ability to get the job done even in less than ideal circumstances.
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