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SquadmemberRitsu
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 9:46 pm
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Quote: | As a result of the designation, bookstores will be prohibited from selling or renting the book to minors younger than 18 years old, or allowing them to browse the book. |
Wait, so they didn't do this already?
Is this why teenagers in anime always manage to get their hands on porno magazines to put under their bed?
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Vaisaga
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:07 pm
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Rahxephon91 wrote: | This is bad how? |
Having customers unable to purchase your product anymore is never a good thing.
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wohdin
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:07 pm
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I actively avoid anything with "imouto" in the title nowadays so I couldn't possibly give less of a fudge about this, but I imagine that this censorship will actually be beneficial for this franchise, in particular stirring their target audience as well as anyone who gets off on the idea of "taboo" - which, in case you missed the memo, is a LOT of Japanese people. After all, we're talking about the country who has mandatory porn censorship laws. I think that this being the first manga to be raunchy enough to get censored will actually be a pretty big boon for it.
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EleutheroMaster
Joined: 15 Aug 2011
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:36 pm
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There's still the Internet!
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:40 pm
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EleutheroMaster wrote: | There's still the Internet! |
TPP will destroy the internet as we know it if it doesn't stay a stalemate as it is today, returned to the drawing board, or is gone completely. Tyranny has no respect, shame, ethics, or honor.
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Rahxephon91
Joined: 08 Jun 2003
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:44 pm
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Vaisaga wrote: |
Rahxephon91 wrote: | This is bad how? |
Having customers unable to purchase your product anymore is never a good thing. |
But adults can still purchase this adult material.
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TarsTarkas
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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Location: Virginia, United States
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 11:40 pm
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Rahxephon91 wrote: |
Vaisaga wrote: |
Rahxephon91 wrote: | This is bad how? |
Having customers unable to purchase your product anymore is never a good thing. |
But adults can still purchase this adult material. |
Not if it becomes unavailable, which is the worry. By becoming restricted, it becomes more expensive to sell and more of a pain in the neck for it to be stocked. The danger is that they will simply not stock it. After all, it is one manga in a ocean of manga. Why deal with it.
I've been in Japan, but don't really know if there is a sectioned off area for restricted adult manga or doujinshi. Everything seems to be adult manga or doujinshi.
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configspace
Joined: 16 Aug 2008
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 11:41 pm
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It's not adult material, given that there is already a designation for adult material that is based on sexual explicitness--which the publishers can determine ahead of time--and this bill adds to the list of restricted books, that CANNOT be determined ahead of time.
Or if you say it is, then teenagers who would buy this are also adults, especially given that they can be held responsible for crimes. One is incompatible with the other.
I also hope you realize that 18 years old is NOT adult in Japan. The age of majority is 20. Speaking of which, this is also another area that bill 156 can affect. Have you ever noticed how anime shows go to great lengths to avoid or say or disclaim that minors, like 19 year olds, drink or smoke? I would wager any title that actually advocates for this or other illegal activities "disruptive of social order" would also be affected.
It's pretty disgusting though, to see how many people use utilitarian arguments (OMG for the children) or personal views as their guiding flimsy principle on the use of force.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 11:47 pm
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Yeah, the "b-b-but I'm a minor, drinking alcohol will literally destroy my liver in seconds!" shit is kind of annoying. I can only think of a few instances where it's untrue, like Harima from ScRumble saying how he drinks often, but never shows it.
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enurtsol
Joined: 01 May 2007
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:04 am
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Murder, She wrote: |
The Imōto Paradise! 2 manga by artist Sekizai Mikage adapts Moon Stone Cherry's 2013 adult game of the same name. The first Imōto Paradise! game inspired an adult original video anime project. |
Well, duh! If it was gonna do justice to the game, it should've been at the same adult level already.
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Hawkwing
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 12:13 am
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The anime/manga/eroge industry has been declining a whole lot since Ishihara's outragous bill passed. Japan had enough censorship already and this bill didn't improve anything.
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Agent355
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:08 am
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As far as I'm concerned, it's completely reasonable for societies to restrict sales of certain items (porn, alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, whatever) to adults. But how far can/should they go in enforcing those laws? Should there be porn licenses like there are liquor licenses in some places? Sticking a rating on and shrink wrapping the books in question, and then requiring I'd for the actual purchase, should be enough. I'm trying to remember what's done about porn in convenience stores here, but I can't recall seeing girly mags in any public places recently. Sure, pharmacies (which have no problem selling beer or cigarettes) never sold them, but they used to be easily available in a bunch of convenience stores around NY, on shelves with black plastic plates covering the covers. I wonder what the laws are here, actually.
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nargun
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:17 am
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TarsTarkas wrote: | Not if it becomes unavailable. |
Meh. Display of sexually-exploitative material in public for public sale carries some pretty significant externalities wrt ability for certain people to comfortably use public spaces: if after mitigating that externality producing the material ceases to be economically viable that's... well, pretty much OK, really.
I'm not sure there's many people out there who think that "It's only economic if I put it in convenience stores where rape survivors have to walk past it, or otherwise sales will drop below the critical level that makes it sustainable" is a terribly compelling argument.
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kanechin
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:33 am
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Wish I could say "They just made it adults only so it can be still be purchased just not by anyone under 20" was ok but I know this is going to get worse.
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Lusbox
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:59 am
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It's not like incest is a good thing anyway..
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