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nDroae
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I'm grateful that about 90% of my excitement for anime is for past anime that I haven't seen yet. Cue up Muse - Unsustainable.
I think they're both real titles, and that the title was edited at some point. Wiktionary, salve: "Any thing or action that soothes or heals." |
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mangamuscle
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Before people get too happy about Castlevania:
https://www.facebook.com/powerhouseanimation/posts/1532164740127870 “For the past 18 months we have been hard at work on a top secret project and we are so thrilled that we FINALLY get to share it with you all. Powerhouse Animation, along with our friends at Frederator Studios & Netflix, has been working on the brand new Netflix Original Series: CASTLEVANIA!” If it took them 18 months to do four 30 (24?) minutes episodes, it will take years (and I do not mean one or two) for them to grow and be able to deliver a weekly 12 episodes series. If down the lane we discover that they also outsourced an important chunk of work to asia, then move the finish line from "years" to "probably never". Even if discover that from those 18 months they only spent the last six doing the animation, that still is less than one episode per month. |
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I'm assuming that there is no union/guild/association that represents animation workers in Japan. Or if there is, it is obviously incredibly ineffective. The only way things will change in Japan is if the animation workers band together and basically say, "nobody will lift a finger until things change." I'm guessing the chances of that happening are basically zero.
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WingKing
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Here are a couple of good articles related to this topic:
https://www.timeout.com/tokyo/film/the-future-of-digital-animation-in-japan (How Studio Colorido is trying to solve the overworked/underpaid problem by taking a different approach to anime production at their studio) http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/will-japans-creative-appeal-last (a look at the biggest issues/challenges facing Japan's ACG (anime, comics, & games) industry, with comments from industry pros on what needs to change) |
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brankoburcksen
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The scenario you described, Justin, where an anime producer pitches an idea in the early stages of development to Netflix already happened. It's Perfect Bones.
Last year, at Production I.G.'s Anime Expo panel, the rep talked about how Netflix came to them asking about anime they had in development and Perfect Bones was the one they picked. She commented how surprised she was at how complex the story was after reading the scripts for three episodes. Despite playing a full trailer with Netflix logo and everything (after some issues getting the audio to work), which looked AMAZING, only I and one other person asked about it during the Q&A, and he was very hesitant to ask his question because the twenty or so other people in line only asked about the now released live-action Ghost in the Shell or the new FLCL. I asked about the budget for the series, but the rep seemed to wave away my question that it had the normal budget. Since the initial press release and AX there has not been any word on Perfect Bones, but it is easily the anime I am most curious about. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/netflix-continues-anime-push-perfect-869154 |
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Agent355
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Not sure what you mean by "doesn't help," the show seems to be doing fine as far as I can tell. It has a loyal fanbase online, and they've already announced another season. Whatever they're doing, its working. |
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Lynx Amali
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I have no idea why I typed "doesn't help." I meant it in a good way; like they grew up with the show so this is what they remember the show as, not what it actually was. spoiler[I'd argue its better than GoLion at this point too. Well, it's lacking the whole "Robot pissed off God so they split him apart" thing the original show had going but that was basically the real only memorable thing about the show IMO. We'll see if they bring that back in later.] |
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luisedgarf
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The problem here is the fact the Japanese loves to churn out stuff that maybe it will not be a sucess, pet projects, or in the worst case, stuff who, in other countries like the U.S., would could get both the director and anyone behind the whole process sued due to content, or lack of accountability. Heck, I would bet many of those series could have being funded as a way to laundering money for criminal groups like the Yakuza, taking into account how the yakuza has the control of some industries, like porn, wrestling and gambling. |
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mangamuscle
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You seem to think that everybody has a crystal ball that can predict with 100% accuracy which releases will be a flop and which will be winners. If japan had that kind of knowledge then Sony Pictures would not release flops like the Ghostbuster reboot. The simple truth is that "ever hand a winner, and every hand's a loser", anime studiios need to release their series to the public to know how good they will be received by the public. But you are not alone, many people say year round "They need to produce less anime to increase salaries" thinking they can pick clear winners, forgetting series like Attack on Titan or YoI were a total surprise and many supposed winners languish in obscurity after a few episodes. |
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ignitingblue
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I just hope CygamesPictures goes well. CygamesPictures itself is the anime branch of Cygames and was formed for the purpose of "making change to the anime industry (in Japanese, sorry)", by means of better wages and better time management according to the interview. So sad they are just recruiting people currently, and there are no news come out for more than a year.
That reminds me of Reikenzan the anime series, arguably the worst anime in its season according to viewer's poll of Niconico live.
The current model of production committee anime is making the show into an advertisement so that people are willing to buy the original work. There are many manga that sale more than a million copies in the respective year that their adapted anime are released. SInce the publishers (and toy makers) make better out of this model, I hope they treat anime companies better.
Also thanks for the links. |
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Kadmos1
Posts: 13558 Location: In Phoenix but has an 85308 ZIP |
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Seriously, if they plan on streaming it in 190+ countries and potentially attracting a large fan base, they should have given an update on "Perfect Bones" by now. Also, try something that many people prefer, Netflix. That is, weekly simulcasts. That is what Sentai, Daisuki, Hulu, CR, Amazon, and Funi are better at.
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SHD
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Actually, one of my problems with American-produced anime for American audiences is that they tend to fall on the over the top dark & edgy end of the spectrum, equating maturity with violence and, very often, sex appeal (for male viewers, of course), much like some companies did in the '90s. And then they take themselves too seriously, ending up really pretentious. So personally I'm rather wary of these productions. Also, while the current anime industry obviously has its huge issues, I'm always shaking my head at people pretending that there are no good anime made anymore. Maybe if you only go for the most mainstream stuff and never look further than what everyone is talking about. But I've been watching anime since the '90s and so far there hasn't been a single season where I didn't find anything worthwhile. |
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kpk
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Wait, you've seen footage from Perfect Bones? I really hope that means we'll get it soon. How did it look like? |
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EricJ2
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Because it's their JOB. Ie., they've worked long enough in anime to know how to do it. (Except for Amazon, of course, and Hulu at least has experience with simulcasting current US shows.) Netflix got one or two anime series to promote a demographic appeal to their new "exclusive original series", and one of them caught on, so they tried getting a few more. Why are we talking about Netflix? Because most casual streamers have never heard of Sentai, Daisuki, CR or Funi, and are putting all their eggs in the first and most accessible basket they happened to notice in the room.. That's not a reason. |
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Jay_Stone
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Does someone know from which anime the thumbnail is?
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