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Spotlesseden
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depends on the law in Japan. Some jobs have no such a thing as overtime pay in US. I'm in one of those.
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Mr. sickVisionz
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I've got no clue how the JP hr/payroll laws are setup, but even on salary these guys would be owed overtime in the US. Very few positions qualify as ineligible, despite what a shady boss or manager would try to tell you.
Geez Louise. |
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taco123
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Beatdigga
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Good.
I hardly see the problem with suing for better working conditions. I mean, people rag on unions (I have HUGE problems with the Culinary Union for example) but it's to prevent these sort of practices. |
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shawnji_us
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This isn't just a problem within the Anime industry; this problem has been going on in every sector of business in Japan for years. I've lived and worked here for several years myself, and from what I've seen the problem stems from a combination of misplaced cultural values and people in positions of power taking advantage of good-natured people.
Do a Google search on "karoshi" and you'll find everything you need to know about one of Japan's biggest social problems. The worst thing about it is that everyone is always too tired to be productive in any meaningful way, and that's why despite working such long hours Japan's productivity level is often below that of other nations. These guys are absolutely in their right to sue. It takes a lot of guts to stand up to authority in a society that shuns you for doing so. For anyone who claims that they're suing for too much money, remember that legal costs have to be factored in as well; and those are always exorbitant. |
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enurtsol
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Yeah, Japan is notorious for unpaid overtime, even McD's there: "Unpaid overtime is killing McDonald's managers" Workers would sometimes punch-out off the clock when they're supposed to, but then continue on working, so as to be viewed as a loyal worker.
The common joke is that workers would "take it easy" appearing to work during the day, then near the end of their business day just when the boss is getting ready to walk out of the office (the workers won't dare leave before the boss leaves, even if it's past their scheduled leave time), do the real work feverishly --often times leading to working past the scheduled leave time because they started so late-- so as to appear they're working real hard when the boss passes by. So it's a balance, between J-companies expecting workers to work unpaid overtime for the good of the company, and workers who end up working beyond the scheduled time because they didn't do real work hours earlier. "What is the best solution for reducing unpaid overtime work?" |
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Ryker61
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"In the anime industry we do not pay overtime", It doesn't matter what industry you work in, you work overtime, you get paid overtime. :x
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reanimator
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Thanks for clarifying things up. We need perspective from someone like you who works in Japan. I have a question though. Are young Japanese workers voice their labor condition in openly? I wonder if their misplaced cultural value is one of the causes of Japan's socioeconomic stagnation. Speaking of Karoshi, how is it written in Kanji? I want to do some research on my own. |
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shawnji_us
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No problem. This is a subject I'm pretty passionate about. I don't think that most workers feel like they can be open about their situation. A lot of people even feel like it's only natural that things are this way. Since Japan operates on a hierarchy system, generally speaking, any change that happens tends to come from the top. The little guy on the bottom is usually too afraid of losing his job to make any kind of a fuss. I should mention that finding and maintaining a job over here is a difficult proposition; especially if you're over 30. These problems are being addressed recently, however; albeit slowly. There are groups within Japan that are trying to help other companies develop a stronger work / life balance for their employees. So there are steps being taken, but most businesses are very slow to adapt to this. The prevailing idea for the last 50 years or so has often been that work is more important than your family life (for men at least), and that mentality is hard to break from. The Kanji for karoushi reads like this: 過労死 Here's a thread you may find interesting as well: http://okwave.jp/qa/q2086210.html In that thread you'll find that a lot of 20-somethings respond that they come home relatively early (a lot are working part-time jobs), while a couple older respondents still seem to be working well into the night; often only getting an hour or two of sleep. It's a really sad state of affairs. Some people might blame the employee for putting up with that regiment, but that really downplays the cultural stigmas and societal pressure these people face everyday. It's not like in the U.S. where it's relatively easy to re-invent yourself at 40, start up a whole new career or go back to college. Anyway, excuse me if I'm rambling on. I just get pretty worked up about this whole issue. |
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