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belvadeer
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I know what you mean. Your Charlie Brown example really hit home since he's had many cases of different actors (and only one of them was ever a boy). |
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O-chan
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What I really find both funny and ironic is how this a complete reversal of the situation when the Escaflowne TV series and Movie were released. Ocean casted the young Andrew Francis in the role of Dilandau and it actually sounded pretty weird hearing a little kids voice come out of grown psychopath, but a few years later when the movie came out Andrew returned to the role with a noticably deeper voice(and more polished acting) and he nailed the role. So much that anime fans praised him for going through puberty (btw, his most recent role Lasse Aeon in Gundam 00).
I just find it funny that the reverse is true in this case. O-chan |
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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There are LOTS of reasons that casting kids is a pain in the butt. Child labor laws mean they can't work for very long at a stretch, can't work past a certain hour, and most of them fidget and don't have the the required attention span. Some of them have insane parents. And that's assuming you can find one who can act. BUT finding people who sound like prepubescent boys is INCREDIBLY hard. (The "cast a woman" trick usually doesn't work out so great here, for whatever reason.) That's why the few people who can pull it off (Johnny Young Bosch, Greg Ayers, Yuri Lowenthal) get cast in pretty much everything. Funi has always tried to cast kids in kid roles, and I've always appreciated it, because I know how hard it is. They're after a realistic aesthetic, and for all the risks, it's usually worth it. It's just, too bad this part of FMA took so long to dub. I have a feeling they'll probably recast the part for Brotherhood. Since it's a different continuity they can probably get away with it. But I don't know that Funi has easy access to another kid of Dismuke's caliber. Those are hard to find. |
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CCSYueh
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I've always liked Mona Marshall in boy roles.
Cute boy is one thing, but boys voices do vary. There are some young male voices I find incredibly grating (neighbor kids, etc). Some kid actors in movies really bug me & it's not just looks, but their voices. Not to mention the ones who can't act, but get cast anyway. I did my time in the 90's taking my daughter to all the kid movies (Baby Geniuses must totally erased from the planet. Please) More than once I wondered who this or that kid on screen was related to that the kid got cast. (More cowbell?) My mom complained my cousin & I had such high-pitched voices that she couldn't drive when we were arguing in the back seat as kids do. Kid voices aren 't always all that great. I think I've gotten to the point in my old age where I'd rather have talent. |
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Dune
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It's a shame Funimation couldn't add Fullmetal Fantasy to the dvd, though I'm still grateful they brought this stuff over.
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chrisb
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I actually like real slightly awkward teenage voices. It's a reason I really enjoyed Red Garden and Peach Girl when it comes to dubs. Not to mention Studio Ghibli movies where a few famous teen actors really work.
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Animerican14
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Man, that stinks so MUCH about Aaron Dismuke's voice... when I heard a snippet of his voice on FUNI's trailer for this, I cringed a bit, but hoped that it would sound maybe a bit better in the dub. And I really enjoyed his performance together with Vic's... not only was it a great fit for the character, but it really had a distinction to it that I felt couldn't be matched by the voices I've heard of children in other dubs, played by an adult or not.
I'm really not too sure what to think about a possible Al performance from Aaron in FMA Brotherhood... yeah, it'd be great for franchise continuity, but his still-developing voice doesn't seem like it could work for a "14 year old Al" anymore, nor would it sound as genuine to the general audience, I would think. Does anyone here know any other VAs that could match up to or even beyond his performance as Al? Or maybe any rising-yet-younger-still child actors that FUNI has recently used? Really haven't paid a lot of attention to recent dubs of anime... |
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jr240483
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Full metal Fantasy??? I've never heard about that one.is that another oav epsiode too??? |
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pachy_boy
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Having just watched this, I have to say that, especially if you're a Fullmetal fan, the entirety of this disc is a lot more fun than Justin gives it credit for, while I agree that the 'Kids' short was the nicest surprise. The interactive experience was fun in having all the characters rounded up at once regardless of continuity, and it was really funny and almost priceless hearing their commentary of their roles in the movie in Chibi Wrap Party. I have no understanding of the gripe over Aaron Dismuke's voice change when it's something he can't help, and I see no reason why they wouldn't have him play Alphonse again should they ever dub Brotherhood. Sure, he may not sound like a little kid anymore per se, but his voice sounds a little closer in age to Vic Minogna (who we all know is a grown man to begin with), and aren't the two brothers around the same age anyway? They still sounded natural with each other, and I still felt what I was listening to was still Ed and Al. I'm sure that once we get into the Brotherhood dub with the same ole' Vic and Aaron (assuming it happens), regardless of what we were used to hearing before it just won't be such a big deal anymore.
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Hahaha, no. Fullmetal Fantasy is a live-action "fan film" written, produced and directed by Vic Mignogna in which he plays Ed, with a bunch of other voice actors from the show playing their characters. Notably it was produced and screened without permission from Aniplex and seems to have been basically scrubbed off the face of the earth since it debuted at a convention years ago. Here's a screenshot! ![]() No, I don't know where to find it, and yes, I have spent time looking for it. |
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littlegreenwolf
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... Woah. Just... woah... and off I go questing for it. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Good luck. If you do find it please enlighten us all. We've searched high and low. |
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zanarkand princess
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Yes, yes the elusive Full Metal Fantasy. Nobody has ever been able to find it again. I would call it an urban legend if con-goers who saw it and screen shots didn't exist.
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littlegreenwolf
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I searched high, and I searched low. I searched through various torrent sites, private and public, multiple search engines on top of I searching through the #channels, all to no avail! I even searched behind the cyclops' eye but IT WASN'T THERE!! Basically after an hour of putting my mad internet skillz to use I'm calling it a quits. It doesn't exist on the next in any form outside of annoying pictures. Wikipedia even removed the article they had on it because they couldn't confirm a source to it existing.
Vic Mignogna has somehow managed to keep this thing under heavy wraps. I'm surprised no one has managed to post it on youtube via their phone, making me think they go so far as to make sure no one is recording during a panel because really, I'm impressed. There are no clips anywhere. I conclude now that Vic Mignogna is an evil genius who developed this just to get us all to go to his panels at conventions. I'm kicking myself now because he apparently showed it at the last Megacon, which I attended. That'll teach me to think that any other sort of panel has to be more interesting than an English VA panel. I don't understand why they can't add it as a bonus on the North American Full Metal Alchemist dvds. Now I'm just going to have to attend a Vic Mignogna panel. I see now he's attending the upcoming Dragoncon, which I'm going to. I shall go and see if he shows it there, and if he does I will attempt recording it with my craptacular phone. His panel just better not be during one of the *insert random geek panel or music performance here* and especially not during the attempt to break the world record for largest group Thriller dance. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Vic isn't supposed to show it in public. That's how he got into trouble with it in the first place. Let me explain why Fullmetal Fantasy is a problem, in brief. Imagine you got a job working for Disney doing the voice of, say, Mickey Mouse. Then you make a homemade movie where you dress up as Mickey Mouse and run around the room farting*. You do not ask Disney for permission to do this, you just do it, with some of your friends. Then you show up as a guest at a convention where you are billed as the voice of Mickey Mouse, and have a panel where you take questions from the fans. Two hours later you screen your Fartin' Mickey movie in its own panel, hosted by you. Disney finds out about it that way. Disney gets understandably upset about this and forbids you from screening it again or releasing it to the public if you want to keep your job as the voice of Mickey Mouse. See the problem? *Note - I am unaware of any scene in Fullmetal Fantasy where Vic, dressed as Ed, runs around the room farting. I have not seen the film, though. |
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