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Kruszer
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This is true. Both Sato and Misaki spoiler[have serious mental issues. Misaki was a victim of severe abuse and and suffers from depression. Her initial motives are quite self-serving even if they also benefit Sato, but then she comes to rely on him and even fall in love. In the end the two of them find they need each other in their lives to balance out their own idiosyncrasies.] |
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HaruhiToy
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I don't care if Misaki is self serving. Any girl who spoiler[will help clean up a guy's shit-stained underwear] (that's some spoiler ain't it?) and still hang out with him is made of more pure stuff than I am.
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By_the_Jelly_Beans?
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So true. I feel bad for Misaki, Sato treated her pretty bad sometimes. Who does that to a cute (2D girls are the best by the way) girl who wants to hang out with you and "save" you? |
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RGaspar
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How far are you in the series?? As Yuna49 said, Misaki has a hidden agenda and her own problems as well. I gotta admit I haven't seen the anime yet, but in the manga Misaki is like the worst character. She's just a total manipulative and unstable girl who needs Satou because spoiler[in her eyes, he is inferior to her, so she ain't so bad when you hang out with the lowest kind of people you could ever meet. When Satou starts making progress, she doesn't want him to change at all.] Now, that's not my definition of "Angel". But once again, maybe in the anime things are different. Another example, in the manga Misaki spoiler[wasn't abused as a child, that was a story she made up.] I just liked her at the beginning, but most of the time I just couldn't stand that character. The rest of the cast is much better. |
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getchman
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Anime Misaki is not nearly as bad as manga Misaki, and she is definetly not lying about the spoiler[abuse]
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marie-antoinette
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It's been awhile since I watched the series but I am pretty sure the anime changed this so that spoiler[the abuse was real]. |
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By_the_Jelly_Beans?
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The first part follows into the anime, the second part is changed. I've only seen the Anime as I read little manga except for series that I have already seen and want to know the ending. (aka Berserk, Spice & Wolf, Claymore) I guess I don't find Misaki all that bad because I've ment so many people out there like her. In the anime during one of the lessons spoiler[Misaki even tells him the secret with dealing with people. Something along the lines of think whoever you are talking to inferior to you. (Which you already pointed out is why she needs Sato.) I want to say this conversation lead to her giving examples of people degrading strangers on the internet. Why? So they can feel better off than someone else....in other words everybody does it.] Of course she might be a whole lot worse in the manga but seeing that the anime had a descent ending I honestly most likely will not read it. |
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yuna49
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Fairly early in the manga we see her spoiler[tapping Satou's phone.] |
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Kruszer
Posts: 7987 Location: Minnesota, USA |
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The original novel and the anime end with spoiler[Sato traveling to Misaki's home town and stopping her from jumping and then he signs the 2nd "contract" that essentially makes them a couple.] Anything after that the manga made up, I'm not sure if the novel's author was the one who wrote the manga's story or not, since I haven't read it. |
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By_the_Jelly_Beans?
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Wow, now that is a conspiracy. She obviously a government spy sent to watch and manipulate Sato to see if there was a way to "cure" them. The government also must be the one that got the Class Pres. spoiler[involved in the triangle scheme and latter collapsed it, all to see the affect it would have on her brother.] Even Sato's friend next door, running into his other high school friend, everything was CONSPIRACY against Sato?! AAAAHHHH!....or maybe I'm just reading too much into it. @Kruszer I took the ending as spoiler[The pack saying that they would stay together. So you had the growth of the characters and both admitting that they were messed up but still needed someone else. Cause everybody needs somebody to love.] |
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marie-antoinette
Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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Having seen the anime first, I think it was all the deviations that the manga took which made me eventually give up on it. The anime characters aren't even close to being admirable but they are likeable and I do think of them all fondly.
Also, I think any "official" discussion thread about the series needs to have a mention of how good Chris Patton is in the role of Satou. The rest of the voices are decent too but he is the main reason I generally will watch this series dubbed (the other reason being that I prefer watching dubs if they are good, so that I can do other things while I watch). I feel the great need to put my DVDs of this series on now. |
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RGaspar
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From what you're telling me people, it seems the anime is a vastly different and (probably) better product . I'll check it out, then.
I like WTNHK! concept, it just the way they made Misaki in the manga what drives me nuts. Specially knowing she's the main girl and all. I wouldn't mind her that much if she was a supporting character. Anyway, how come there wasn't a thread about this series before? I thought it was kind of popular and stuff 
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jl07045
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I second that. He put so much emotion in it. Great work. |
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nobahn
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marie-antoinette
Posts: 4136 Location: Ottawa, Canada |
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I think when it first aired we didn't have quite as many show-specific threads as we do now but I'm not entirely sure. It definitely is a fairly popular series from what I can tell though, enough so that it was picked up by Funi pretty fast after ADV went bust.
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