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Mr. sickVisionz
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Most companies lose money for their first few years of operation. Calling this an utter and complete failure after like two weeks of being open is a little silly. It could certainly wind up as a failure but it seems ridiculously premature to make a judgement at this point. |
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Creamy Mami and Black Jack should have been the only ones available to pledge on first, since they have the most potential. Or maybe only Creamy Mami first. I don't think making all the rest compete at the same time, within a short 2 months, for a very limited audience is a good idea.
They can stream and take surveys of the other titles to gauge audience reaction first, before putting them up for pledging. They might also consider advertising at various places. I found out about a western anime-style VN on Kickstarter through an ad here (or somewhere anime related). Also spread the word on /a/. But just as importantly going forward, to make some of those other titles in this survey available. The big classics or more well known titles that are on CR that remain unlicensed for video. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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I'm not so quick to call it a total failure, but I do think more research in which shows to add and begin the pledges for is a good idea. Take that survey very seriously, and scrutinize why some shows do better than others. Once the shows that do fail are retired, I hope more marketable ones replace them. This system can work, it just needs more time and attention, and most importantly: better content.
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Kerberous
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Ok, Animesols is a huge success. It will not fail at one thing and is the greatest thing ever, I'm sorry for ever doubting it. Black Jack ? Who cares about a Tezuka title, not like those make any money. Feel better now, princess ? |
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Darksorrow29
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What advantage does a company that owns the rights of a show have by going through Anime Sols vs just going onto Kickstarter by themselves? Is it because Anime Sols will do the packaging and all that stuff and handle everything?
As for me I am just simply not as interested in their titles. |
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samuelp
Industry Insider
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Yes, there's that, but for most Japanese rights holders kickstarter isn't an option because they don't control 100% of the rights, only the international licensing rights... Kickstarter requires having a local US (or UK) presence to start a kickstarter campaign, and many rights companies in Japan don't have one. Toei and TMS and Aniplex have US branches, but a company like TV Tokyo does not, nor does Sunrise anymore without Bandai Ent... They'd need to go through some US based company/middleman/agent. Not to mention it would require _licensing_ whatever the property is to that entity at some point... they can't simply act as a money middleman as that actually violates Kickstarter's TOS... The "company" must also be the project "creator" (or directly associated with it). I.e. whoever makes the DVD has to be the company that does the kickstarter. Also, although it's possible to claim you won't ship outside US, it's not possible to limit the pledges regionally, and that's a deal breaker for any property which is already licensed in some other country, since it's the process of _getting money from consumers in a country_ that would be violating the local license, not shipping the actual product.... or at the very least a gray area. |
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partysmores
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I think something might've fell through since it was on the survey. That announcement was in July and we have yet to see anything turn up from it, no Anime Network On Demand listing (or anywhere on their website), no preorder or even announcement of DVD/Blu-Ray plans... |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Maybe they realized the show was going to go on too long and probably not make enough in DVD sales and relinquished the license? AnimeSols didn't add it to their survey, with the intent of funding it through their pledge service, just for funzies. It's all conjecture, of course. |
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tuxedocat
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In the past, S23 has issued a press release when they relinquish rights to a license. At this point, I'm going to assume they still have the license.
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agila61
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The logical fallacy there is false dichotomy. There is a middle ground between (1) it is already an abject failure and (2) it is already a runaway success ~ disagreeing with (1) is not the same as claiming (2). It is, of course, trying to do the otherwise impossible. So if it works for any titles, it is more success in licensing those titles than would otherwise be possible. Since we are two weeks in to a two month run and Creamy Mami is at 23% of its target last I looked, so given a "telethon" effect at the end of its period, there's no reason to dismiss its chance at this point. |
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yotsubafanfan
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Kimagure Orange Road is good for what I've watched, same with Urusai Yatsura.
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Fronzel
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By "the way through", do you mean the number of episodes available on the website? I don't think that's actually relevant; each pledge drive is for a 13-episode box, not the whole series. All of the series are at least halfway to showing what pledgers would be paying for, and Black Jack has actually gone past the point of showing everything that would be in the first box. They certainly wouldn't run a pledge drive for the two years it would take to fully run Yatterman. |
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DavidShallcross
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Not necessarily. The survey starts out saying
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Myaow
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I'd absolutely positively LOVE the chance to get Magical Fairy Persia (unlike a lot of titles on the list, it's never had a complete English release, either legitimately or through fansubs.) However, if Creamy Mami, which is beloved by a lot of people and moves a lot of product even today in the form of toys and fashion accessories (a lot of it unauthorized!!), is having trouble getting funded, then there's no way that poor Persia could collect enough money! I'm so sad!
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mdo7
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I took the survey, I wish Anime Sols good luck to them. I would like to watch a lot of the old school anime they have on there.
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