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residentgrigo
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It makes sense that Justin ran into natives who have no idea that hentai or R-18 anime/manga are a thing. Anime soft-core porn is only shown at night and in a highly censored manner on top. The disc releases cost and arm and a leg, so no-one would causally buy it and i am not even sure if a noteworthy rental market exists or more realistically existed in Japan. At least the renting of games is still outlawed.
Nudity on (daytime) TV or in games is now nonexistent. Meaning that you would need to actively follow the scene, go though those section of your local retailer or seek Ecchi or Hentai out. But then again, which random non-Japanese geek has an idea that this content exists? It´s a VERY niche market in terms of monetary value and is only noticeably visible on the web though piracy and porn. |
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Joshua Zarate
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I personally don’t find it any more weird than when To Love-Ru ran in that same exact magazine from 2006-2009. So yup, I don’t think it’s something the magazine is unfamiliar with. 
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Jonny Mendes
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Also Lilim Kiss, Video Girl Ai , I"s, To Love Ru, are in the same magazine as One Piece just to mentions a few. Last edited by Jonny Mendes on Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:24 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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3rdImpakt
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It's reasons like this I feel the articles writer really dropped the ball. Their main point is that "fanservice" isn't mainstream... Yet some of the heaviest and best fanservice series as far as nudity and shenanigans are published in the most popular manga magazine, one for kids no less. On top of that, these series are regular best sellers and HUGELY popular. The articles writer is simply wrong :/ |
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Alan45
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@Chrno2
Aika and her semi-sentient battle bustier is currently available from Right Stuf! on DVD for $3.49. The title is Agent Aika. |
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CatSword
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I'm not sure if you can call fanservice "mainstream" based on those series. I remember Bakuman specifically mentioning the trouble fanservice-heavy series like To Love-Ru have in reader surveys due to readers being embarrassed to hand in a card listing it as their favorite. |
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FireChick
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Indeed. I've been seeing this a lot lately, even in fan fiction, where people act like even the slightest hint of sexual stuff is tantamount to the writer of the fan fic having committed world genocide. Personally, I avoid any and all ecchi anime, or anything that has characters grab each other's boobs and its played for laughs (I've been taught from a young age that sexual harassment is bad no matter what, and some shows playing it for laughs is an instant turn-off for me). I loathe shows like Ranma 1/2 and Haruhi Suzumiya, but I have friends who love them, and I have no problem with them liking those shows. It's not my call to tell them what shows they should or shouldn't watch, because doing that is rude and immature. I'm mature enough to know that everyone has their preferences and that I shouldn't judge someone by the content they consume (With some exceptions, I might add). |
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3rdImpakt
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And I'd argue some anecdote from an anime series holds much less weight than actual, hard sales numbers and the fact they are heavily featured in the most popular highest grossing magazines. If they weren't popular they wouldn't be there. You also simply note the readers are "embarrassed to say they like them" but embarrassment has nothing to do with popularity if everyone's enjoying and buying them. I'm sure tons of middle aged women are embarrassed to admit they love 50 Shades of Grey. Doesn't mean it isn't mainstream and super popular
Like what? |
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See more glass
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As as ecchi material goes, I think JP is definitely way more lenient on sexuality in kids/teens stuff than the west.
In the USA, sex is considered bad in general, due to Christian religious morality, and anything sexual-related to kids is a no-no. You can get away with it by using innuendo, like in Animaniacs, but nothing else (as far Johnny Bravo went was using the word "virgin" in a episode, and that's all.) In JP, you can get jokes like in MOTHER 2 where an attractive idol singer, Venus, is apparently doing nude modeling (a game, not manga/anime, but still), and in Sonic X, Rouge the Bat sees a butch dyke lesbian-looking secret agent, Topaz, tied up in hand-cuffs, and says "So you're into S&M, huh?" (which also implies bestiality...) Both instances were censored out in the USA releases. |
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Alcest
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I wonder from which universe your USA is from because it definitely isn't from ours. |
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See more glass
Posts: 16 Location: In the 20th century |
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The 80's-mid 90's, which is when I grew up? Anyway, if you think BDSM jokes are equivalent to "finger Prince" puns you're well out of your mind. Hell, half of the Animaniacs sex jokes couldn't even fly in cartoons these days. Last edited by See more glass on Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:23 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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3rdImpakt
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But you said "the USA sees sex as bad in general" before getting into "in kids shows" which was what was ridiculous. Also, I'm just gonna throw this out there...your 2 examples of Mother 2 and Sonic X were.......dumb. |
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Shay Guy
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All of these too, but I figured I'd just point to the one ongoing series with a new anime. |
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See more glass
Posts: 16 Location: In the 20th century |
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American sex stuff in kids material is innuendo, puns, and subtext. Japanese sex stuff in kids material is far more blatant, obvious, and often actual fanservice. It's not hard to understand.
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configspace
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This doesn't explain the dichotomy of One Piece manga, anime and merchandise being completely mainstream, on daytime TV, in advertisments, promos, and its explicit booby fanservice being upfront for everyone see and no one still caring about it.
While not everyone watches late night anime, everyone reads manga and fanservice there is just as ubiquitous, not to mention the same kind of imagery for various promotions with Lawson, or on billboards, etc. So I don't think it's a matter of Japanese mainstream simply being unaware at all. Heck, have you seen the live daytime TV gameshows? |
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