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INTEREST: Live-Action Cowboy Bebop's John Cho is Worried About the Inevitable Comparisons

Spike is from Mars.

And Mars is basically Space Mexico.

So I always thought Spike should be Latino.

So, as far as I'm concerned if they get the mood and the character themes right, and don't mess up Vicious

I just wish they spent the money from this building a new interesting IP,

juaifan wrote:

Why wouldn't people make comparisons? The only reason companies do adaptions in the first place is if they think they can do a better job than the original. It's just another example of cultural extraction in that they take what they want from a piece of foreign media (IP, story) and leave behind fairly important things they don't have the palate for (foreign actors and characters, motifs and concepts unique to the culture, etc). The only reason this exists at all is because the people in charge think this can replace or do a better job than the original anime did. Of course we're going to make comparisons and scrutinize the heck out of this.

I think that's a faulty assumption to assume that movie companies only do adaptations is because they think they can do better. I am sure some probably think this way, but I am pretty sure that the vast majority do it simply because either they think it will make money as the IP is popular, or in the case of smaller companies, or Indie companies, it's a passion project because they like the IP. I think this general idea of they think they can do better or want to "one up" the source material, or "steal mah animu!!!", are off the mark.

Whether or not they actually do produce an adequate adaptation is an entirely different topic.

NiPah wrote:

I just wish they spent the money from this building a new interesting IP,

I thought people hate when companies like Netflix and Crunchyroll invest their money into original IPs since it’s not what “they” the subscriber paid for.

I just wish they spent the money from this building a new interesting IP, I’m always up for an interesting sci-fi flick on Netflix, but trying to convert Cowboy Bebop just is inevitably looks cartoony IMO. I’ll probably watch it out of morbid curiosity, and I’m sure the staff and cast had every intention of making an awesome show, but it was doomed from the start.
Meh I’d love to be proven wrong, but till then I’ll just stick with the original.

As long as he doesn't shit talk the fans of the series and berate them like a certain other actress then I will have zero problems with him or how the show turns out.

I mean god forbid people change the precious otaku masturbation or power trip fantasies because in most cases that is exactly what it boils down to. It's not about "doing the show justice" in those situations when it's mostly just the female actors who get that treatment, and almost always when the sex appeal is toned down in any fashion.

Now they're making prequel comics and novels for this version of Bebop? It really does sound like they're trying to make this the new version of the franchise but more in line with western sensibilities. I suppose it was inevitable for anime.

Would it be so bad that people want a sexy Faye as well or is that not allowed in your eyes?

more in line with western sensibilities.

Now they're making prequel comics and novels for this version of Bebop? It really does sound like they're trying to make this the new version of the franchise but more in line with western sensibilities. I suppose it was inevitable for anime.

lightturner wrote:

Now they're making prequel comics and novels for this version of Bebop? It really does sound like they're trying to make this the new version of the franchise but more in line with western sensibilities. I suppose it was inevitable for anime.

Cowboy Bebop was literally inspired by Watanabe's love of Western cinema.

lightturner wrote:

Would it be so bad that people want a sexy Faye as well or is that not allowed in your eyes?

The morons she's talking about don't want a "sexy Faye" (not that Daniella Pineda isn't sexy). They want a fantasy pinup with body proportions that are humanly impossible and a sexualized costume that's utterly impractical.

That's not anywhere in the same ballpark as John Cho being shirtless or "too old". And it's disingenuous as hell to pretend it is.

DerekL1963 wrote:

lightturner wrote: Would it be so bad that people want a sexy Faye as well or is that not allowed in your eyes? The morons she's talking about don't want a "sexy Faye" (not that Daniella Pineda isn't sexy). They want a fantasy pinup with body proportions that are humanly impossible and a sexualized costume that's utterly impractical. That's not anywhere in the same ballpark as John Cho being shirtless or "too old". And it's disingenuous as hell to pretend it is.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Not to mention if someone's primary focus is on Faye being sexy and not the acting, script, and actual performance then any claims the movie is a poor adaptation lose all credibility. You're not looking for an adaptation, you're looking for sexual fantasy material. There is also a large difference between questioning an actor's age for a role (in this case when the character he's playing is almost half his real age) and claiming an actress is a horrible chose because her boobs aren't big enough. Pretending otherwise is just bs bad faith arguing at it's finest. There's also only a fraction of people doing the same to Cho claiming that he's not buff enough, athletic enough, etc. to play Spike. Hell, the detractors are mostly just "curious" or just slightly wonder if he can pull it off, while Pineda has had dozens and dozens say she flat out is a bad choice, can't do the role at all, and just criticize everything about her simply because she ain't packing DD's in what is almost a hooker's outfit.

I mean let's be real, I love Bebop and Faye but her outfit in the show is something you'd find on a street corner after dark. If anyone wanted to say the same sort of things to him, as they have to Daniella Pineda, they'd be just as big of an ass. But people aren't leaving comments like that on his twitter by the dozens, or more, as they are to her. Anytime they dare to mess with the anime (or even just animated in general) tiddies or tone down a female character's sex even just a little bit the angry otaku come out of the cracks to complain about western values/sensibilities, censorship, not being a proper adaptation, etc. These same bs arguments came up with the Tomb Raider game reboots and the movie with Alicia Vikander.

Maybe instead of being rude and disgusting douchebags with those sorts of comments, they should wait and judge the thing by the actual performances when we see them.