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Maidenoftheredhand
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If sales drop 90% and your raise your price 10 times to make a profit then you make your customer base extremely insular. I am not saying it doesn't work in Japan but we aren't the same market. Those are the prices they always had over there. |
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SereneChaos
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Who says the current prices aren't working well? Sentai is licensing tons of shows (I think/hope they're smart enough to learn from past mistakes), Funimation and Discoteck show no signs of financial problems, Bandai was making money (just not enough money), and Media Blasters is still alive, albeit on life support. Why fix what isn't broken? Prices are working well for now, and they can raise prices if they suddenly stop working. We can deal with collector prices when the American anime apocalypse happens, but there's no reason to adopt those prices now.
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ManaKnight
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Letter Bee has me excited. I love the manga and saw some of it. Definitely a day one buy for me.
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Key
Moderator
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That doesn't cut out the lags/drops/commercials/low-quality streams issues, though, and those are currently the much bigger issues on my end.
If you're referring to VOD services, those actually often aren't at the same quality level as a BR (at least not in my experience, anyway) and typically offer limited viewing windows. That's fine if you only ever intend to watch a title once, but the titles that I have that I've only watched once and never looked at again are in the minority. As for the arguments about pricing, I find it very interesting how utterly contrary these arguments are running compared to what they were just 3-4 years ago. Arguments that anime would be fine - or would sell fine - if higher-priced would have not only been unthinkable then but would have made the posters laughingstocks. Ultimately, I guess, it all depends on how the sales-to-cost graphs chart out. |
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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You do know I'm one of the oldest fag's from /a/ right and I still buy releases here and used import anime that is not available here such as KNJ. I Actually love the R-1 industry and hope it stays alive, the same goes for the R-4 region for getting higurashi kai and card captor sakura . The only complaint I have recently is localization changes in titles from funimation and their dub differences in stein's;gate but that's just me. |
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enurtsol
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If anime prices go premium in N. America, not only will there be a drop in buyers, but the print runs will also be quite limited. And there's one big reason for that: retailers. It's one thing for retailers to take a chance on a unit costing them manufacturer's price in the tens of dollars; it's another to take a chance on anime costing in the hundreds of dollars. So that pretty much rules out brick-and-mortar stores, where it's already dire now. But even online stores, particularly the niche anime ones but even the large warehouse Amazon ones, would further limit their exposure, unless they can guaranteed returns on credit to the publisher. Most likely limited to pre-orders plus a few extra - if you don't buy it then, you're SOL, and forget about re-prints. When nowadays an anime release would be lucky to sell in the thousands, a premium release would be lucky to sell in the hundreds, and smaller a print run is a more costly print run, further adding to the expense. So that's where we could be.
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potatochobit
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sentai films exists because 'the previous' company it was under went bankrupt from licensing 'tons' of shows. Not only that, afterwards they filed a lawsuit claiming japanese companies 'asked too much.' They also are using semantics in the law to not pay many of their previous debts. this may be the american way, but it is not the honest way. I would not use sentai films to judge the current state of the english speaking anime economy. in fact, with bandai's recent decision to pull out of the market it seems obvious to me that growth is stagnant or increasing minutely. |
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Emerje
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I was in the room when these were being announced at Animaine. David Williams is awesome for picking our little convention to announce these.
I'll point out that two of the other guests there were Greg Ayres and Terri Doty. If Greg isn't voicing Shouma I'll be shocked! Emerje |
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dragonrider_cody
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ADV primarily went under from growing too aggressively and expanding their company too far. People seem to forget that they had a music division, an original production division, a toy division, a manga division, a staffed warehouse, a dubbing studio, a post production studio, a 24 hour anime channel that was losing money as well as it's VOD counterpart, and god only knows what else. The capital that those projects burned up likely cost them more money than the "tons" of shows they licensed. As for legal specifics, none of us can really make claims one way or the other as we don't know any specifics. One could argue that Funi's attempts to take over a struggling competitor by acquiring their debt could be viewed as "less than honest" as well. It's all semantics and legal jargon, and it all happens everyday all over the country. It's not the "American way", it's the "capitalist way". |
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luffypirate
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The only problem I have is waiting for the show to come to our shores. Rather swoop it up a year before. Money is no problem. I don't want to buy everything out there. Just one or two TV shows a year is fine. |
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