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Kazuki-san
 Posts: 2251 Location: Houston, TX |
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True.. the main point is simply that spoiler[Nancy B is the one that kidnaps Yumiko] The rest doesn't really matter very much. |
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Mia-Of-The-Moon
 Posts: 18 Location: N.Baltimore Ohio |
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I loved it. but it was hared for me to follow the story .
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Maverick
 Posts: 65 Location: Gotham City |
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yeah it was alright except...(like u said) the stupid commercials every 20 min its really annoying when ur tring to enjoy something
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AHZ
 Posts: 166 Location: Metro Detroit |
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From what I saw, it was pretty good. The animation was nice and clean and the story was easy to follow. That was a surprise since I had heard that the plot was a little incoherent at times.
But, then again I didn't see the whole thing. I tried to stay up and watch it to the end, but after about an hour or so, I was out like a light. I was just too sleepy to watch it all that night. Maybe the commercials might've had something to do with that. |
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abunai
Old Regular
 Posts: 5463 Location: 露命 |
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I'm very glad you said that, because otherwise I'd be depressed at having been all the way wrong. You see, I got to my DVD, and watched the passage in question, and here's what I learned: spoiler[ 1) There are two Nancys (let's stick with Nancy A the "good" one and Nancy B the "bad" one). 2) They already know each other, which is clear from comments they exchange. (SCORE 1 POINT FOR KAZUKI+STUPIDFRIEND) 3) Nancy B was the one who made a pass at Yomiko (though it is clear that Nancy A feels the same way) (SCORE 1 POINT FOR KAZUKI+STUPIDFRIEND) 4) However, it is Nancy A who kidnaps Yomiko. This is clear from her reaction when the I-jin leader declares that he plans to kill Yomiko (and make a clone of her). Nancy A reacts with the words "Nan de!? Kono ko wo tasukeru 'tte yakusoku shita ja nai?" ("What!? Didn't you promise you'd spare her?"). That reaction makes no sense if Nancy A isn't the kidnapper. (SCORE 1 POINT FOR ABUNAI) 5) Nancy B impales Nancy A, who nevertheless escapes to save Yomiko later. Then, the two Nancys fight and Nancy B drowns. She doesn't die though, but she does suffer brain damage. Nancy A continues to the final showdown, where she dies.] That's it. Final score: Abunai 1 Kazuki+Stupidfriend 2 I admit defeat. - abunai |
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Kazuki-san
Posts: 2251 Location: Houston, TX |
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There's really no need to keep score abunai!
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abunai
Old Regular
Posts: 5463 Location: 露命 |
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Must... restrain... anal-retentive... urges... argghhh. Seriously, it's seldom somebody manages to get the better of my near-eidetic memory. Kudos! - abunai |
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Kazuki-san
Posts: 2251 Location: Houston, TX |
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Well, I don't believe I deserve much credit. If not for my stupid friend (who, btw, is only stupid because he posted without asking me if it was alright) I would have simply apologized for his post and thought nothing more of it. He is the one who insisted I drag the DVD out after all. but I will file this away, so that it can be used to taunt you in the future, should it become necessary 
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abunai
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Posts: 5463 Location: 露命 |
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It seems Stupidfriend (you've named him, I'm afraid... ) is as anal-retentive as me. We're a regular flock of anal-retentives, aren't we?
Hmmm. "Flock"? I wonder... maybe the proper collective noun for a group of anal-retentives ought to be "a school".
I wouldn't have it any other way... 
- abunai |
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Twilight Dragon
Posts: 585 Location: Archangel |
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I got confused tryiling to tell Nancy was . But, The only thing that bugs me is........... spoiler[Yomako can read sooo many book and yet have so much free time.] It takes me a while to just get trought a book.
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Haiseikoh 1973
 Posts: 1590 Location: Waiting for the Japanese 1000 Gunieas. |
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Well, there are speedreading courses out there. Where you can skim thru pages in a few seconds.
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Kazuki-san
Posts: 2251 Location: Houston, TX |
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I know someone that took one of those courses, only problem is, he couldn't remember what he read. Me, I've been lucky in that from a very young age I've loved reading. I'm a pretty fast reader, and if I'd saved every book I've ever read, I could easily fill up Yumiko's room, but not that entire building! |
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abunai
Old Regular
Posts: 5463 Location: 露命 |
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Well, to be honest, I don't think Yomiko Readman actually read all those books. She certainly read many of them, but reading all would be physically impossible. What you're seeing when you look at Yomiko is something very close to a pathology: a true bibliophile, like her (or like myself, though I am but a pale shadow of her greatness) will continue to acquire books. Old books. New books. Rare books. Books with interesting subjects. Books with a fascinating layout or design. Books by authors we already like. Books by people we don't like, for reference when denigrating them. Etcetera, etcetera. But the fact of acquiring them is separate from having time to read them. A bibliophile acquires books because he or she is hooked, like a junkie on drugs. If I had the same amount of money that Yomiko obviously has access to, then I'd be living in a building full of books, too. I'd have read many of them, and I'd have a fair idea of which books I had and where in the building I could find them (for when I needed to make reference to them). But there is no way I would have read them all, despite the fact that I am a speedreader. Oh, I am so envious... oh, to have a library numbering in the hundreds of thousands, instead of in the mere thousands. - abunai |
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Kazuki-san
Posts: 2251 Location: Houston, TX |
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Yeah, you could have her building full of books, and take her job as well. Access to all the treasures the British Library obviously has in the OVA, would be a nice perk  I don't usually collect books, although in my spare time, I am a rabid reader. The security guard at the library is afraid of me, because every time I come I have to bring a couple of bags (usually a backpack and a rather large duffelbag, which is stuffed inside the backpack until I start pulling books off the shelves) to hold all the books in. It was really worse in the old days, they used to have to open every single book and make sure you had really checked it out. They always hated it because it took them 10 min just to finish with me. (slight exageration, but not much)
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The Frankman
 Posts: 1160 Location: Binary Culture HQ |
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My thoughts of Read or Die before seeing it:
True story: a week before I went to the Wizard World convention and heard about it, I saw that video at the video store. Being a library rat and a book aficionado, I earmarked it as a "I'll watch it someday" video. Then I learned it won Best Anime at the 2002 Winter Expo, researched its rather intriguing storyline, and checked its cast of voice actors. Without actually seeing it, it seems very solid and I believe it a great choice of show to watch/own. Personal research done (AI magazine April/May 2004 edition, various viewer thoughts) Like many of Hiyao Miyasaki's films (Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke), Read or Die seems to also place young women of considerable complexity at its center. spoiler[Yomiko's fellow agents are in direct contrast to her - The British Library Task Force also consists of Drake Anderson (Jaxon Lee), a.k.a. Mr. Drake, a commando specialist with no super powers, just big guns and bad attitude. Completing the trio is Nancy Makuhari (Amanda Winn Lee), a.k.a. Ms. Deep, a nimble pistol-packer with the power to phase through solid objects.] With her supersized spectacles and floppy tangle of hair, Yomiko Readman is neither Hello Kitty cute nor schoolboy fantasy (says who? I wouldn't mind being in a quiet corner of the library with her). Every bit the uber-bookworm, Readman looks to be a introvert, obsessed with books to detriment to her (and others) personal safety. Yet, these very qualities make her a delightful heroine to watch. She almost literally stumbles into her battles, reminding me of Officer Mihoshi of the Tenchi series. Against seemingly superior foes, The Paper holds her own, spoiler[whether deploying a coil of ribbon as a cable, transforming a billfold of dollars into a blade, or using post-it notes to deflect flaming attacks!] The posterchild for library nuts around the world, she may not flash skin like a lot of other female anime characters, but in this world she is the Tome Raider . . . My thoughts of Read or Die after seeing it: I gotta tell ya, I'm a little disapponted with Read or Die. I've been waiting since May to watch it, and it didn't live up to expectations. Now, it seemed UNEDITED spoiler[(the actions of sexually suggestive Ms. Deep "sounds like a pornstar's name") and bloody, so that was a plus.] However, some of the characters weren't fleshed out for my liking like Mr. Drake (even Yomiko to a degree!), and Drake also seems to be the throw-in American tough guy . . . hell, they might as well made him black, but that meant he would've had to die nonsensically at the end. Though it is pretty twisty, DO NOT confuse the complex Big O/Wolf's Rain ending with this. I'm sorry (no I'm not) but to me this ending seemed a tad incomplete. I'll give it a 7.5 out of 10, and I think that's fair. Now, I was informed at [as] of this: Dokusensha (from [as] boards) wrote this: __________________________________________________________________ Actually the main reason for the plot holes in the OVA is the fact that its... well... an OVA. It was made for people who have seen the manga. When watching it your supposed to have prior knowledge of the characters and settings (Like most OVAs)It's really just eye candy for fans, which is why people love it. __________________________________________________________________ I guess he has a point. But still, some things are inexecusable. I can handle Amerca-bashing in a cartoon (heck I love it), but geez, It's like the producers went out to sabotage the 2004 election. I just had some crazyHIGH HOPES that went unrealized. EDIT: To be fair, I realize I should read the mangas first. I will track em down and alter this review. Last edited by The Frankman on Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:58 am; edited 2 times in total |
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