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NEWS: Annie Award Nominations Announced

I just spoke to Antran Manoogian, president of ASIFA Hollywood, and he wanted Paprika to be a part of the Annies. But their policy is that films must be submitted by their producers, and that didn't happen.

Keonyn wrote:

Sometimes I'm ashamed to be an anime fan. Times like these when I read threads so full of bile, hate, bias and whining.

No joke, I agree. It's hard to gripe about anime not being nominated when it sounds like the directors never bothered to submit. If they don't care, why should we? My enjoyment of anime has nothing to do with awards or anything but my own individual entertainment.

It's not the glut of animated pics but the glut of animated pics about wise-cracking animals that caused the downturn in average box office for toons this year, Jeffrey Katzenberg said at the UBS media confab in New York on Tuesday...Exec said he thinks his studio's future releases will stand out more from the competition. Studio has two "Shrek" sequels, a "Madagascar" sequel and four original pics in the works for the next 3½ years. Katzenberg seemed particularly excited about 2008's Jack Black starrer "Kung Fu Panda," noting that interest in merchandise licenses is already high.

good points,I was spewing bile about Family Guy and I still can't say Seth's name without a curse, policy states I never apologize and this list still serves as a stark reminder of everything wrong with the American animation scene right now: heartless comedy's done by amateurs (FG) and a million stupid CG animal movies. i am no Japan fanboy, but japan is the only one making anything worthwhile now.

still, i do agree it's funimation and sony's fault for not registering there stuff, i'd say there level of respect for the annies are about where mine are: non existent.

fawhoooosh!

You know, I could easily pick apart anime as well and start to talk about how everything is wrong with anime but I have a bit more class than that.

And I'm sorry, those heartless comedies are done by amateurs? They're anything but amateurs,

just because you aren't fond of the subject matter doesn't make the people who create it amateurs.

There's a difference between opinion and fact, you're coming across with your opinions as though they are fact

the numbers in sales and what not obviously disagree.

Besides, if a person looks at something and can find nothing good about it, then I maintain that they must be bias

because no matter how much you might despise a medium it is highly unlikely you will hate it all without some degree of bias.

I'm not going to lose much sleep over a lack of anime in the annie's, because it seems pretty even.

fawhoooosh!

Seth McFarlane can draw better than I can, I mean I draw like this. *weeps because she can't draw men*

Aww thanks but at least family guy can do more poses than I can... I have a hard time drawing at anything other than head on poses or side views, I can't do 3 1/4 poses or give my drawings much realistic movement unless I'm drawing from a reference image.

This is a long one folks, HIT THE DECK!

As could I, but it's an anime forum and Naruto fans would burn crosses in my yard.

Family Guy is done by amateurs, little if any talent resides on that show writing, art and voice wise. I mentioned no other comedy and meant Family Guy specifically.

I dislike Family Guy greatly because it is largely produced by amateurs.

this is just how I roll.

So?

Fergie made no 2 on iTunes. Popularity=/=Quality by any means.

The only bias I have is a love of skilled people working in the business, and seeing it destroyed by 'writers' who can't draw and aren't funny is painful. Why is it being rewarded?

Sorry, but I find nothing at all redeeming about Family Guy. Please enlighten me on a good quality, should it exist.

I love cartoons and animation which is why I hate seeing generic,mediocre,and--in FG's case--downright awful stuff being rewarded.

Me either, but I should get used to skilled stuff being out there but no one knowing about it and crap being rewarded.

What gets me is that John K's vid for 'No Cigar" didn't make it, but Bill Plymton's vid did. I suppose this is really where I am bias, as an unbashful John K fanboy. Nothing against Bill, but he isn't much of an animator IMO, he should do comics or paintings.

This is a long one folks, HIT THE DECK!

Keonyn wrote:

You know, I could easily pick apart anime as well and start to talk about how everything is wrong with anime but I have a bit more class than that.

As could I, but it's an anime forum and Naruto fans would burn crosses in my yard.

I can agree with you. Even though I love Family Guy I can admit the animation isn't...isn't. It's pretty bad.

For me I realize that by watching all these Anime shows with the high quality animations and such i'm spoiled. I turn on tv and expect the same thing.

The best thing I get to good animation Avatar and the Boondocks.

American animation just isn't the same. Sure you get movies like Cars, Happy Feet, etc but for the most part its still not the same.

A good example of this is Kappa Mikey. Watch an epsidoe of that and you'll see the differences. (even though its still not the best animation)

I hope this made some sense. I'm feeling a tad dizzy.

For me I realize that by watching all these Anime shows with the high quality animations and such i'm spoiled. I turn on tv and expect the same thing.

The simplicity of Western character design allows a higher animation-per-frame rate, thus smoother movement.

Don't forget that most productions in the US and other Western countries tend to have larger per episode budgets. When you combine the simplistic designs with more money, you get the extra effort needed to create those smooth movements and high frame rates, because you can have more people checking it and making it.

While I don't want to fight with Keonyn, I'm going to have to agree with most of what FlamingPinecone wrote in his posts. Personally, I think Family Guy is one of the worst shows ever produced over here. I disagree that the staff are amateurs. They are quite skilled at the type of comedy and animation that they are doing, it just happens that the type of comedy and animation they create is sophomoric at best and downright horrid at worst.