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Black Thunder 6
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Can't say I agree. That show was far too serious and dull for its own good and hiding behind a 'style' couldn't save it, glad IV is going back to the roots instead of just being edgy for the sake of it its much better because of it. |
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Lord Dcast
 Posts: 644 Location: 'Straiya |
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Eh. I still like most of the specials. But yeah, I think the worst piece of Lupin I've ever watched would definitely be Return of Pycal. That was utter crap.
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penguintruth
 Posts: 8468 Location: Penguinopolis |
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Oh, don't misunderstand me. The original manga is, in fact, cruel, unforgiving, cynical pulp, but I enjoy it. I just don't enjoy that many of Monkey Punch's stories are poorly constructed and lack even basic internal logic. In opposition, things like the Miyazaki episodes of the Green Jacket TV series, while not as gritty as the early episodes, have a better sense of story structure and rising and falling action, because they were handled by people who just had better writing talent. This is why I considered the Fujiko TV series more "focused", though perhaps a better example of what a focused Monkey Punch would look like, the Jigen's Gravestone movie especially would be a little closer. Frankly, if you're insistent on fidelity to Monkey Punch's manga, Part IV is probably too light and fluffy. I enjoy it, but it's basically Part II informed by Fujiko Mine TV. Which is good, because it isn't the limp, weak, wimpery and toothless Lupin we've been seeing from the TV specials from the past decade. |
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trilaan
 Posts: 1060 Location: Texas |
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I like most of the Lupin series. Some disagreements with this article are:
The Legend of the Gold of Babylon is weird and cartoony, but I really enjoyed the very 80's antics which reminded me of some of the odd American animated features at the time. Open your eyes, close your mind and enjoy. Missed by a Dollar is one of my favorite TV specials. It drags here and there plotwise but I like all the characters and, in my opinion, it totally kills it with the music(I kinda have a thing for jazzy blues sung in bad English). This is my favorite version of the Lupin Theme(I queue it up occasionally when I want my daily drive to feel more like an adventure). Regarding Angel Tactics I guess I like anti-climactic, dialog-filled showdowns AND, more importantly, badass women characters. A lot of the other non-recommended titles I have yet to see, but I suspect I still wouldn't mind having them in my library if they get licensed. I'll keep a note attached to all the recommendations as possible titles to use to turn my dad into a Lupin fan like me(we have a good start already). |
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koinosuke
 Posts: 273 Location: Fukushima, Japan |
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There really is just something about the Lupin crew; even when the show or special itself if quite bad, it's still just fun to watch them in action. really need to continue watching Part IV.
I think something needs to be said for the music in Lupin as well. I bought the soundtrack for Part II from Suncoast way back around 2003 and I've probably listened to it hundreds of times over the years. Great 70s stuff. And Fire Treasure, the theme from Castle of Cagliostro, is one of my go-to road trip songs. |
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Fronzel
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What happened to the TV specials starting in 2001? They certainly weren't all good before then but they all seem to at least be trying to do something a little different like have Goemon be the main character, being darker and grimmer than any other, or have the villain be the one-shot female lead. Starting in 2001 nearly every special is bland and formulaic, and the last few before the Fujiko TV series revitalized Lupin and co. were nearly unwatchable.
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residentgrigo
 Posts: 2445 Location: Germany |
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@penguintruth The Lupin manga i read are the the 800 page-ish compilations from Japan.
I have no idea how many stories were kept for the US release but i would be surprised if all survived. I actually gave out a Not really good and my scores for part 2-3 are identical (1 is a so-so) due to their again equally mixed quality as i also grade on consistency. Jigen's Gravestone is indeed the closest an adaptation got to the 67 character and you may have fun with the Witcher novels (i am NOT a fan despite the amazing prose), the original Bond novels (a mixed bag) or Masayuki Taguchi´s cocoa bananas crazy output. I don´t want a direct adaptation of the manga but IV comes closer in certain episodes -Requiem for Assassins- than most and goes very PG in others. This approach should be highly intentional as the seasoned creators want to acknowledge most aspects of the franchise. |
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Lupin the Third
Posts: 88 Location: Idaho |
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I suspect a lot of it had to do with a "don't mess with what works" approach that may or may not have been mandated by TMS. Note that Island of Assassins was undoubtedly the most radical of the bunch and it was so divisive that everything afterward played it safe, which ultimately led to staleness (shoot, most of those post-2000 TVSPs even have identical or nearly identical character designs). |
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