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ParaChomp
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 Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:36 am
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Comic Sans!
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Paiprince
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:23 pm
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| Just-another-face wrote: |
| Stuart Smith wrote: | | The series has always had fanservice, and in the first series alone we dealt with Yamato being solicited by an adult woman, Taichi's grief over almost killing Hikari as a kid, and Pinocchimon going on a shooting spree with a 44 Magnum, killing a bunch of Digimon and trying to kill Takeru by, in his own words "make your stomach explode" with hollow point dumdum bullets. Later series were more extreme, like the ethics of killing in 02, or Tamers in general, but that's just the nature of kids anime. |
I will never understand the Japanese and their thought processes when it comes to what they air "for kids". I know it's been brought up numerous times before, but I still don't quite get how it's acceptable for their children to learn about adult situations and hear violent comments being made. Are their youth just smarter at not being influenced by things they see on TV, therefore making it okay to show such content? |
Or perhaps their adults aren't paranoid puritan wrecks who think adult content will corrupt their children because their pastor/Fox News says so.
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Guile
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:59 pm
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NearEasternerJ1
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 6:57 pm
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Actually Paprince, the Japanese are the most socially conservative 1st World nation by far. NHK pretty much is Fox News and suicides per capita far outstrip the USA. Abe is not electable in Canada, Western Europe or Northern Europe, but he is in the US and Japan. The Japanese and American political spectrums are similar, whilst the UK and American ones are not. Ed Miliband is far more radical than most Japanese and American "left-wingers".
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NearEasternerJ1
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:00 pm
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Should we express sympathy for Japanese gamers when it comes to MGS V or Call of Duty or The Last of Us or Fallout or several other violent games that have been altered. MGS especially, since that's self-censorship?
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:01 pm
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| NearEasternerJ1 wrote: | | Actually Paprince, the Japanese are the most socially conservative 1st World nation by far. NHK pretty much is Fox News and suicides per capita far outstrip the USA. Abe is not electable in Canada, Western Europe or Northern Europe, but he is in the US and Japan. The Japanese and American political spectrums are similar, whilst the UK and American ones are not. Ed Miliband is far more radical than most Japanese and American "left-wingers". |
Abe would be unfit for president in the US, he would be able to run like Trump but never get the nomination.
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Just-another-face
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:45 am
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| Paiprince wrote: | | Or perhaps their adults aren't paranoid puritan wrecks who think adult content will corrupt their children because their pastor/Fox News says so. |
There is that, true.
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Paiprince
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:15 am
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| NearEasternerJ1 wrote: | | Actually Paprince, the Japanese are the most socially conservative 1st World nation by far. NHK pretty much is Fox News and suicides per capita far outstrip the USA. Abe is not electable in Canada, Western Europe or Northern Europe, but he is in the US and Japan. The Japanese and American political spectrums are similar, whilst the UK and American ones are not. Ed Miliband is far more radical than most Japanese and American "left-wingers". |
Japan's and America's views of intimacy and sexuality couldn't be anymore different and that is the main issue to the FE IF controversy. Therefore, everything you said just now is largely irrelevant.
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NearEasternerJ1
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:44 am
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| Paiprince wrote: |
| NearEasternerJ1 wrote: | | Actually Paprince, the Japanese are the most socially conservative 1st World nation by far. NHK pretty much is Fox News and suicides per capita far outstrip the USA. Abe is not electable in Canada, Western Europe or Northern Europe, but he is in the US and Japan. The Japanese and American political spectrums are similar, whilst the UK and American ones are not. Ed Miliband is far more radical than most Japanese and American "left-wingers". |
Japan's and America's views of intimacy and sexuality couldn't be anymore different and that is the main issue to the FE IF controversy. Therefore, everything you said just now is largely irrelevant. |
Even then, porn is censored in Japan, so even on that standard, Japan is more conservative.
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Mr. Oshawott
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:42 pm
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It's moments like this that raises hope for the future of gaming. Even with Fire Emblem Fates boasting the fastest U.S. launch of the entire franchise, I think Nintendo of America has reason to be rattled by the growing backlash of customers that were incensed by the Treehouse's destructive work of the title.
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Paiprince
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2016 12:52 pm
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| NearEasternerJ1 wrote: |
| Paiprince wrote: |
| NearEasternerJ1 wrote: | | Actually Paprince, the Japanese are the most socially conservative 1st World nation by far. NHK pretty much is Fox News and suicides per capita far outstrip the USA. Abe is not electable in Canada, Western Europe or Northern Europe, but he is in the US and Japan. The Japanese and American political spectrums are similar, whilst the UK and American ones are not. Ed Miliband is far more radical than most Japanese and American "left-wingers". |
Japan's and America's views of intimacy and sexuality couldn't be anymore different and that is the main issue to the FE IF controversy. Therefore, everything you said just now is largely irrelevant. |
Even then, porn is censored in Japan, so even on that standard, Japan is more conservative. |
Don't equate FE IF's cut content to porn. Moving the goalpost further and further doesn't prove your point.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:58 am
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| Mr. Oshawott wrote: |
It's moments like this that raises hope for the future of gaming. Even with Fire Emblem Fates boasting the fastest U.S. launch of the entire franchise, I think Nintendo of America has reason to be rattled by the growing backlash of customers that were incensed by the Treehouse's destructive work of the title. |
Destructive is an awfully exaggerated term for what was done with the game's script and content. Also Nintendo has very little to concern themselves over concerning the "Downpour" crowd. The whining and moaning from the minority ultimately isn't going to change how Nintendo over handles the localization of all future Fire Emblem games outside of say whether or not the next game keeps the Japanese dub in the western releases.
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Stuart Smith
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:20 pm
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Destructive is an awfully exaggerated term for what was done with the game's script and content. |
It depends on your viewpoint I suppose. Some people consider heavily toning down the feel of the game and changing the character personalities and supports to be destructive. Of course there is also other people saying removing the ability for children characters to marry is better because children marrying is inappropriate. The only thing I'm surprised by is there is no complaining about the removal of the unique same sex marriage support, which given the people who are handling the localization seems like a really odd choice.
I agree complaints won't be heard though. Fire Emblem in the west seems to have found its semi-mainstream audience and Nintendo won't be marketing it to the core fanbase anymore. So if they have to tone down violence and sexual content they will. I suppose that seals #FE's fate in the west. It'll just make the rift between the fan bases all the more wider.
-Stuart Smith
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falcon.punch
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:15 pm
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Raven in Revelator was predictable, glad he's in here.
He's a subtle combination of SF4's Revenge bar, Dhalsim's arms, Lucario's aura in Smash.
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