Forum - View topicAnswerman - Do Arranged Marriages Still Happen In Japan?
Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4 Next Note: this is the discussion thread for this article |
Author | Message | |||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Drifter24
Posts: 27 |
|
|||||||||
True! Species that are the least picky about diet or living conditions for example tend to have stayed the same for the past million years while others faced evolutionary pressures. I guess I misspoke but it still doesn't bode well to those in Japan or anywhere actually who are obstinate to change because they like how things are or maybe used to be. It doesn't really foster the idea that they are ready to face a changing environment like the species who have not faced evolutionary pressures. |
||||||||||
ReifuTD
Posts: 171 |
|
|||||||||
I've been wondering if there would be a push to have anime more focused on dating, marriage and having children. Usually at most we have some silly haram anime where some man accidently forced to get engaged to some woman but he wants another woman but has trouble asking her out on a date and the marriage never happens then over time all these girl shows up and try to beat him up and the guy never gets laid. Personally if I was to do an anime to encourage dating and social relationship, would be some kind of swinger's anime around monster girls. Focused on something like a guy and his bi monster girl best friend who's he's in a causal sexual reaction ship with. His friend thinks he needs to relax and go out more and starts hooking him up with some other monster girls acting as his wingman basically, and they start going on causal double and group dates hooking up in different match ups. I'll add some crazy hijinks to make some of the scene funny, But I wouldn't not have any scenes there the girls are mean to the guy to show how good it is to meet and know girls and have a lot of girl friends and respect you. |
||||||||||
Aca Vuksa
Posts: 643 Location: Nis, Serbia |
|
|||||||||
@ReifuTD
Yeah i know that. But the declining workforce will hurt the anime, manga, video games and other entertainment industry for good. Japan will disappear if Japan's birthrate continues to drop. |
||||||||||
Drifter24
Posts: 27 |
|
|||||||||
Lol! It hasn't reached that point yet, though the recent government survey showing less than a million births in the past year for the third straight year is a bit scary to think about when you wrap your head around it. |
||||||||||
Tempest
I Run this place.
ANN Publisher Posts: 10438 Location: Do not message me for support. |
|
|||||||||
Note: No one was talking about refugees. The previous poster to whom you are replying specified migrants (immigrants). Refugees are a specific type of migrants, there are many more. In regards to Arab countries in general, they don't have the same low birthrate as Japan, so there's less of an argument to be made that they need immigration. There's simple logic to this. Is Japan's declining population a problem? If it's a problem, what can Japan do to mitigate the effects of the problem ? If the effects are too serious to be mitigated, what can Japan do to solve the problem ? Is increased immigration a possible part of the solution ?
Japan's government will indeed decide what to do... although their decisions may not necessarily be the best for the country (History, including recent history, is rife with governments making decisions that are not in their country's best interests). While the decision is Japan's and Japan's alone, there's no reason foreign citizens can't look at Japan's problems and discuss them, make suggestions, or even pass judgement on ethics. Japanese people do it about foreign countries all the time. I assume you have an opinion on Donald Trump? Whether positive or negative, you are entitled to that opinion, you are entitled to discuss it, and you are entitled to criticize it. The "mind your own business" mentality is kinda dumb, and also pointless. Personally, as I live in Japan several months a year, I have many friends in Japan, and I care about my friends' future. It's not as if I have no stake in the country's healthy survival, so I frequently share my opinion on it. I'm lucky enough that I can immigrate to Japan if I want to (I'm qualified to fast track and be a citizen in about 12 months), so hey, maybe one day I'll be voting on whether or not Japan should allow in more immigrants and/or refugees. -t |
||||||||||
MarshalBanana
Posts: 5407 |
|
|||||||||
There is one thing about this immigration thing that I do not get.
OK so a Chinese person is not Japanese, however they are both oriental, or east Asian(which ever is right). So what difference does it make to their country? Take for example South Africa, the Boers, Dutch settles are not Black they are white, so that makes a difference, but if someone from Zimbabwe moves other, it doesn't really make any difference. The Chinese who come other, how will you tell the difference between their kids and the kids of Japanese parents? |
||||||||||
Drifter24
Posts: 27 |
|
|||||||||
Lol there is so much that is wrong with your post but you are probably just curious out of pure ignorance than malice but you probably offended a some or maybe a lot of Asian people from that particular region. As outsiders looking in it probably looks the way you perceived it in your post but to Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese, and the rest of the ethnicities from that region they’re big differences in not only language but culture and attitudes and even physical differences to an extent. Outside of all that I mentioned it will do you a lot of good to do some research on the history of these peoples and their interactions over time and you will see why everyone doesn’t sit in a circle and sing happy songs. Also being a person from East Africa they’re obvious physical differences between Africans from North, South, and West Africa that a native like I can notice that outsiders won’t see without pointing it out. So like I said do some research. You probably have access to the internet which is a fountain of useful information if you know where to look. Start with wiki, it isn’t a bad place as they tend to list credible sources along with information. |
||||||||||
Compelled to Reply
Posts: 358 |
|
|||||||||
Long work hours is also a scapegoat and objectively false. In fact, Japan's average work hours per year are pretty average. Maybe it doesn't take into account unpaid overtime and "loyalty" after hours, but this is also is more rare nowadays as the Shūshin-Koyō lifetime employment system fades away. As for support for parents, child care is a booming business in major Japanese cities, and while it helps, at what cost? With all do respect to the men and women taking care of children while parents both work, it's not a healthy upbringing. I've seen it myself with the DINK boom and many millennials.
People are quick to point to this as well. Japan actually has mandatory maternal AND paternal leave for up to a year to the extent it's so generous, no wonder employers want to let go of people having children when they can easily be replaced. |
||||||||||
enurtsol
Posts: 14808 |
|
|||||||||
Unpaid overtime and not living the office before the boss leaves the office is still not uncommon in Japan. It's just the expectation, so people just do how it's always been done, just to keep the social harmony in the workplace. Those who leave "early" are given the "stink eye" by the rest of the office.
Yeah, if ya wanna start a business in Japan, child care is very much in demand. (Though finding workers is a problem in a tight job market.) Both parents working is becoming a financial necessity. Salaries have been stagnant (despite the tight job market, go figure), while children expenses go up. It's becoming harder just for 1 working parent to support the whole family.
It's mandatory, but employees are reluctant to take it. "Researchers have figured out why almost no men take paternity leave in a country that offers 12 months of it"
While about half of mothers quit work when they start a family, those who remain at work or take maternity leave, about a third of them are subjected to "matahara" (maternal harrassment). "Survey shows maternity harassment still a problem at workplace
Sometimes, Japanese (co)workers are their own worst enemies. |
||||||||||
MarshalBanana
Posts: 5407 |
|
|||||||||
This sounds like Nazi Pseudoscience, "Those Jews aren't German because they don't have Aryan blood" despite that they had to wear bands to tell them apart. Or those Americans who say "I have Irish blood". As I said, is a child of Chinese parents, born and raised in Japan, really going to stand out, sure their parents through accent and culture are going to stand out. But their descendants, who will likely marry Japanese citizens are pretty much going to keep the country pretty much the same. Not even people from Japan look the same, Shoji Kawamori and Hideaki Anno are the same age, but don't look anything alike. I'm sorry for being so rude, I'm sure there is a difference between you and someone from another part of Africa that I can not see but you can, why you would see them as different people is another matter. But it really ticked me off how incredibly condescending and(at least from my perspective) arrogant your reply was. |
||||||||||
Meongantuk
Posts: 354 |
|
|||||||||
It's more about their culture than how they look. Unlike some American believe, skin colors and genetic make up don't really means much when it comes to cultural identity. I mean yea, appearance wise East Asian don't look all that different, but their cultures are still very different from each other. Hell, Chinese has literally HUNDREDS of different ethnic. Each got their own accent, vocab, clothing style, tradition, cuisine, etc. When you marry with someone from outside your culture, there's risk of your kids losing part of your culture be it language or belief. It may not disappear immediately but if it keeps going, your descendants will lose it completely someday. Look at the Ainu. Japanisation made them near extinct. Ainu descent exist, but many of them lost the ability to speak the language or practice the tradition. Currently the Japanese are still the majority, but as the population dwindle and more people marrying foreigner, sooner or later they'll become minority before eventually disappear. *** Chinese people in Japan is a thing by the way, there are China towns in Yokohama, Kobe, and Osaka. For more ancient ones, Okinawa has some mixed Chinese descent ethnicity (albeit, the Japanese didn't acknowledge them as different ethnic). |
||||||||||
Sakagami Tomoyo
Posts: 940 Location: Melbourne, VIC, Australia |
|
|||||||||
This is the sort of thing the more rabidly anti-immigration types keep saying, but it really takes an overwhelming majority and a prolonged active campaign of forced assimilation to actually happen. With the Ainu example, it's a little tricky (at least in the time I've got to spare) to find real numbers throughout history, but in the 18th Century there were something like 80,000 Ainu and 30 million Japanese. There isn't anywhere near enough people on the planet to outnumber the current Japanese population by that ratio, even if you could fit them all on the Japanese islands. Immigration numbers would be a fraction of the Japanese population, and while the culture will change a bit as a result, as I've already pointed out the culture has been changing due to contact with other nations anyway. The idea that a relative handful of immigrants are going to entirely wipe out the existing culture is a fantasy, as is the idea that immigrants could so easily outnumber the existing population. |
||||||||||
marek1712
Posts: 128 Location: Poland |
|
|||||||||
Mrs. Ichinose, yes. But I think it was Shun's uncle being even more pushy (or, on the other side, Kyoko's mother) |
||||||||||
nDroae
Posts: 382 |
|
|||||||||
As a millennial, the thought of getting married at 25 is insane
I'm a millennial (born 1987) and I think it's perfectly normal to marry immediately after college, but that's because I grew up in American conservative Christian culture. Once, in an online discussion, a Japanese woman told me that it's reasonable to disapprove of marrying and having children with foreigners, because hafu children are known to be badly behaved. Y'think growing up in a culture where you're categorically a misfit from birth might contribute to any actual behavior problems? Then a westerner jumped in and said that only melting-pot nations should be expected to provide a welcoming place for mixed-ethnicity couples to live and raise a family, while all other nations' ideals of purity should be respected and preserved. For a few years I stopped watching anime and was almost embarrassed to like anything Japanese, before I eventually reluctantly got far more into anime than I'd ever been before. And now I have Space Battleship Yamato merch on my desk, of all things.
It's been done: anime#11962 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30-sai_no_Hoken_Taiiku Wikipedia: "The series is aimed at men in their 30s who have not had any romantic or sexual relationships with women." anime#2136 ANN: "Makoto and Yura Onoda are happy newlyweds but neither of them has sexual experience before. Desperately willing to improve their sex life, they look for help from their relatives, friends and 'the media.'" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futari_Ecchi Then there's this (in my opinion) hilarious, and seemingly facetious, take on Oshiete! Galko-chan by Real_Hentai_Senpai. I first read it as the show's top review on MAL, which seems to have been deleted since. https://www.reddit.com/r/Animemes/comments/6mkfab/galko_is_a_true_pure_maiden_and_lewding_her_is_a/dk36e1v/
|
||||||||||
Sakagami Tomoyo
Posts: 940 Location: Melbourne, VIC, Australia |
|
|||||||||
Incidentally, this is why the word "bastard" does double duty as a word for a person whose parents were not married and someone who is not a nice person. When childbirth out of wedlock was so heavily stigmatised that the child was thought to be evil and wrong and thus ostracised and discriminated against, the only way they could survive much less thrive was to be ruthless, which further fed the impression people had that children born out of wedlock were by their nature bad people.
Which is bloody stupid. Racial purity is an illusion, and anyone advocating keeping it (or worse, returning to it) should not be trusted. |
||||||||||
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
||
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group