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NEWS: Higurashi Kai Preempted "Due to Various Circumstances"


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Buster Blader 126



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:04 pm Reply with quote
While I'm certainly disappointed that both shows got delayed, I don't really blame them for pre-empting it. Though I'm not really sure with When They Cry 2, because I haven't watched Episode 11 yet, so I don't really know what's going on.

& hey, with school and all, I actually don't mind watching it a little later. Confused
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naruto fan 09812



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:04 pm Reply with quote
Ramadahl wrote:
naruto fan 09812 wrote:
I do not care what people said that certain violent shows do not make you do violent acts in real life. Because,its do and not everyone is the same. Sure,maybe you do not go on a violent rampage when you see an ultra violent show. But some do and this material sometimes cloud their judgement. And that why things like this happens.

Uh, you didn't just say "See, TV made her do it!" without any detailed knowledge of the case, and also ignoring the general messages of both the articles referenced and the thread itself, did you?

Thank goodness I know well enough not to bother trying to debate it with you...
I didn't say TV make her do anything. I said TV make affect certain people in a different way. If I miss something in the article. Can you at least say it politely without bitting mine head off. At least show some manners.
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minakichan





PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:06 pm Reply with quote
Man, it's PRE-EMPTION. It is NOT banning the episode. You will SEE IT LATER. It's not really censorship!

And if you think the US doesn't pre-empt for stuff with much, much less impact than this, you are wrong.

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I mean does it seem today that people are just having reasons to be looney? Is it that some people are affected by what they see while other's aren't?


"Does art imitate life or does life imitate art?" -Andy Warhol. Obviously, to say that violent media directly cause people to commit violent acts is asinine, but I think to say that art has absolutely no effect on people is equally silly, I believe. To go the obsessive ban-all-media route is ridiculous-- especially economically, when the money to be made and the potential economic contribution far exceeds the worth of the minute number of human lives that will be affected! And as a realist, I do say that sometimes that is a valid reason. But there are other cases.

Some people are saying that this incident wasn't a huge tragedy with the hundreds dead, but where do you draw the line? How many of you are actually paying attention to Japan's media coverage of this event? It is NOT the same as it is for any other person getting murdered. It's the same reason that if a multitude of US soldier get killed in the line of duty, we don't pay half as much attention as we did in VTech. It's not the body count that matters, it's the circumstances, and these are shocking ones, especially considering Japan's culture and social norms.
If a teenager in the United States committed suicide by hanging, it would be mentioned a couple of times in the news. If another killed himself by blowing himself up in the courtyard of his school, it'd be another thing entirely.

As for the broadcasters, this is the ONLY route they could have taken-- not morally, but economically. Can you imagine the alternatives? Angry Japanese schoolmothers complaining about violent anime, even folks in the United States shaking their heads again about anime all being violent porn? If they had gone that route, these shows might end up getting cancelled. And sometimes it's the public, not always the broadcasters, who have the power to make that decision.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:10 pm Reply with quote
CCSYueh wrote:
(Insert lots of text here)


Smart lady ^

DmonHiro wrote:
Hey.....it's you again.....I missed you since the Kodomo No Omocha thread. Your posts still amuse and I thank you for that.


Stupid man's opinion of smart lady ^

Ramadahl wrote:
Still, I'm not bothered - the stuff'll show later anyway, it's not as if it's like, I dunno, a relatively harmless manga series that gets such a fuss kicked up about it the distributors drop it, or anything...


Completely unrelated comment about his opinion on a now dead topic ^


And to everyone who is whining about the media effecting people, etc, etc... Learn how to read.

From the article:
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Officials have not directly linked either series to the murder case.


There is absolutely no mention of the girl being influenced.
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DmonHiro





PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:21 pm Reply with quote
Unholy_Nny wrote:
CCSYueh wrote:
(Insert lots of text here)


Smart lady ^

DmonHiro wrote:
Hey.....it's you again.....I missed you since the Kodomo No Omocha thread. Your posts still amuse and I thank you for that.


Stupid man's opinion of smart lady ^

Ramadahl wrote:
Still, I'm not bothered - the stuff'll show later anyway, it's not as if it's like, I dunno, a relatively harmless manga series that gets such a fuss kicked up about it the distributors drop it, or anything...


Completely unrelated comment about his opinion on a now dead topic ^


And to everyone who is whining about the media effecting people, etc, etc... Learn how to read.

From the article:
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Officials have not directly linked either series to the murder case.


There is absolutely no mention of the girl being influenced.


Hi! It's mister "emontional blockage". How's that going for you?

I find it pretty sad that some people just come up and call you "stupid" without even an atempted argument. I also find it sad that people blame the media for just about anything. Someone was murdered? Blame the tv shows. A minor stole a car and killed someone with it? Blame the video games. What about the parents who are suposed to look after their children? Where were they? Hod did the minors get acces to the evil video games/tv shows?

And before the "grammar nazi" above me says it, yes I may have made typos, but, like always, I don't care. Also note that "emotional blockage" and "grammar natzi" are his/hers words, not mine
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:23 pm Reply with quote
naruto fan 09812 wrote:
I do not care what people said that certain violent shows do not make you do violent acts in real life. Because,its do and not everyone is the same. Sure,maybe you do not go on a violent rampage when you see an ultra violent show. But some do and this material sometimes cloud their judgement. And that why things like this happens.

I think the reason School Days and Higurashi were delayed wasn't out of fear of imitation, but out of a concern that airing them would be insensitive given the recent murder.
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Ramadahl



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:25 pm Reply with quote
Unholy_Nny wrote:
Ramadahl wrote:
Still, I'm not bothered - the stuff'll show later anyway, it's not as if it's like, I dunno, a relatively harmless manga series that gets such a fuss kicked up about it the distributors drop it, or anything...


Completely unrelated comment about his opinion on a now dead topic ^

It is related.
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whoisfriend



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:26 pm Reply with quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KRbodCk7c

See? Some people are blaming this on Higurashi. There are (admittedly overexaggerated) fears that Higurashi Kai may be cancelled completely because of this media.
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DFBTG



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:30 pm Reply with quote
If officials haven't made any connections to either anime, then I see no reason why they should be preempted. Even if by some chance they do "find" a connection, should someones lack of psychological stability, which probably wasn't caused by the anime, really affect everyone else? Believe it or not, but psychological problems aren't something that are suddenly obtain(well, some diseases are another story, but that's not what I'm getting at). There's always a slippery slope, and something tells me anime/tv/etc isn't where the decline began.
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kyokun703



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:40 pm Reply with quote
Eos wrote:
I think the reason School Days and Higurashi were delayed wasn't out of fear of imitation, but out of a concern that airing them would be insensitive given the recent murder.

I agree with this comment. People are going off and saying this is censorship, but the shows haven't been banned (yet), just pre-empted until the situation cools down a little bit.

If they shows get banned, then this becomes a whole different topic, and the Jack Thompson comparisons can be hauled out.

But really, it's like the Cowboy Bebop teddy bear terrorist episode (my favorite episode, btw) being unaired after the whole 9/11 for several months. Sensitivity.

Just because the U.S. has become desensitized to violence, sometimes even to extremes, doesn't mean that all other countries have.
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naruto fan 09812



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:41 pm Reply with quote
DFBTG wrote:
If officials haven't made any connections to either anime, then I see no reason why they should be preempted. Even if by some chance they do "find" a connection, should someones lack of psychological stability, which probably wasn't caused by the anime, really affect everyone else? Believe it or not, but psychological problems aren't something that are suddenly obtain(well, some diseases are another story, but that's not what I'm getting at). There's always a slippery slope, and something tells me anime/tv/etc isn't where the decline began.
Saying,that she has psychological problems before this incident is subjective. Because, we do not know for sure. Untill someone comes out with a non bias report that TV does not effect you mentally. We will not be able to make a well inform opinion on the matter.
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naruto fan 09812



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:57 pm Reply with quote
I am not saying that TV violence have anything to do with this case. But when are we going to take off the rose colored glasses that TV violence sometimes play a factor in people decisions. Just because we do not want I favorite hobby slam. That is not a good enough excuse.

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Xenofan 29A



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:07 pm Reply with quote
naruto fan 09812 wrote:
non bias report


It's not possible. The very selection of facts employed in writing a report necessarily displays perceived conclusions. Bias is necessary to understanding, and paradoxically, hinders comprehensive understanding.
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Ramadahl



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:07 pm Reply with quote
naruto fan 09812 wrote:
I am not saying that TV violence have anything to do with this case. But when are we going to take off the rose colored glasses that TV violence sometimes play a factor in people decisions. Just because we do not want I favorite hobby slam. That is not a good excuse.

If you're not saying it's involved then you're off-topic.
If you are saying it's involved, see my previous post to you.
Either way...
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angel_lover



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:13 pm Reply with quote
CCSYueh wrote:
stuff

I'm not complaining because I don't get to see my favourite shows (there, see, I'm not American). This issue has nothing to do with traditional Japanese cultural sensitivity and everything to do with American blame culture. I'm sick and tired of it infecting the UK like it has done over the past years, and now I'm dismayed to see the extent to which it has spread in Japan.
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