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Jedi Master
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I'm just glad Sentai even makesdubs. I actually wish they'd dub more. There are many titles in their DVD catalogue that I would buy if only they had an english dub.
I doubt season 2 of Haruhi made money. I'm enjoying the books, but Endless Eight seems like too much filler in the anime adaptation. The region 1 DVDs for season 2 still seem widely available/over-stocked. |
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ultimatemegax
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littlegreenwolf
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I think you're thinking of the wrong kind of editor here. The manga industry works differently than US book and magazine publishing. They're a well oiled machine and control a lot of the development of a manga's storyline and characters. In Western comic terms the closest we get is pretty much when a writer/artist has to work with the big DC and Marvel characters. Everything in the story has to get approved. But American manga editors aren't completely innocent either. Manga sometimes gets edited to make it more "friendly" to American readers in hopes of it appealing to larger audiences, or outright avoiding controversy. You don't need to go further than Naruto's American release for a prime example of how Viz has handled the editing to make sure parents aren't completely against their kids reading it. Naruto has turned into a naked girl? Add more clouds. That kid is smoking a cigarette, and it's essential to the plot? Just edit all the cigarettes out and let the readers be confused. That scene has two boys kissing? Black it all out so you can only see the silhouettes. There's a long list of stuff like this with Naruto, and I don't think the fact that it was released in Shonen Jump USA helped with it. |
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SnaphappyFMA
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I just checked my Hakuouki discs and there's only "English Language" and "Japanese Language with English Subtitles." Unless there's some way to turn off the subtitles once I've selected the second choice, I'm stuck with the subs. |
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Kakugo
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Agreed. I didn't mean to imply Sentai was "downgrading" material themselves, merely that someone on the Japanese end was running off 1080i masters for, seemingly, no particular reason. The other possibility is that 1080i masters are the only thing that exists for King Records titles, but the JP release performed a proper Inverse Telecine immediately before BD encoding. A shame if that's the case, but it's totally possible. |
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Alan45
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@SnaphappyFMA
If you are watching on a computer it may not be possible to shut off the subtitles. However many DVD and Bluray player remotes have a "subtitle" button which can toggle subtitles on and off. It can also run through the different variations if there is more than one subtitle stream on the disk. The only show I have found this disabled on was "Hikaru no Go" from Viz. |
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kanechin
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no more haruhi but I bet we will see 2 two seasons for nyaruko after W, I hate this world.
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Mohawk52
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samuelp
Industry Insider
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That's true when dealing with filmed footage (i.e. filmed at 59.94i), but we're talking about anime here. In this day and age everything is produced at 24 frames per second, progressive. The only exceptions might be credit overlays but even that is rare now. Since the 1080i broadcast tapes are made by telecining the original progressive footage, it IS possible to 100% reconstruct the original 1080p from a 1080i master, and it will look better compressed, too, because 1080i telecine footage contains 20% duplicate fields which waste bits you wouldn't need at 24p. |
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dragonrider_cody
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This is also disabled on virtually all Kadokowa blurays releases from Funimation, and the majority of the Aniplex properties they've released on bluray. Viz locks the subs on all of their blurays. NISA has been about 50/50 so far, but like Sentai, they've given warning before the street date. But as Alan45 stated, you just need to use the subtitle button on the remote, or the subtitle options in the computer program menu. I've personally never encountered DVD playback software that didn't allow you to shut off the subtitles outside of the main DVD menu, but I don't doubt that some exist. Snaphappy, what are you using to play the DVDs? |
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Blanchimont
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You have it backwards with the computer part. On PC, YOU'RE in control. If you rip the disc you can watch the stream files directly with any supporting software player(any of the major ones, except wmp), with subs and all selectable. And I very much doubt those would honor any 'forced' flags even if that was the case with a physical player. I admit I don't have a release with forced subs to test with. But, if that isn't enough, rip(remux) the video, audio and subs to a mkv container with one of the multitude of ways available, and if the forced flag wasn't pulled down before, it is now. |
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SnaphappyFMA
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Yes, I'm just watching the DVDs on a PC. No remote. Thanks for the answer, though.
A PC. As I stated before, there are literally only two options on the DVDS: "English Language" and "Japanese Language with English Subtitles." If you mean what software - Windows Media Player. Last edited by SnaphappyFMA on Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:29 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Fencedude5609
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Yes, but if you're on a PC, you can get around that easily, though you may have to do some googling first. |
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SnaphappyFMA
Posts: 216 Location: California |
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I hadn't thought of trying any of the controls on Windows Media Player to see if I could listen to the Japanese audio track without the English subtitles, but maybe there's a way. Or I could download VLC media player or another program. On my old computer I had WinDVD and that worked pretty well. I'm not that familiar with Windows Media Player really. Edit: Whoa, I found it! On Windows Media Player, you choose Captions: Off, and then it plays with the Japanese audio track and NO ENGLISH SUBS! YES!!! 
Last edited by SnaphappyFMA on Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:55 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Kakugo
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Possible, sure. But unless you know exactly what you're doing you could cause more harm than good by doing a poor Inverse Telecine. I've seen archival 1080p24 tapes with blatant IVTC fark-ups due to bad field matching. How those were designated better materials than the 1080i30 masters with 3:2 pulldown they were made from is anyone's guess. 
That said, there's a handful of people in this industry who know how to create a clean 1080p24 master from a 1080i30 tape. I really wish Sentai would invest in one of these people and avoid these problems entirely, but with the positive reviews Bodacious Space Pirates and Mawaru Penguindrum have had, complete with their 1080i presentations, I doubt they think it's worth the cost. I personally haven't picked up Mawaru Penguindrum yet. Not because I'm not interested, just because... well, there's a thousand other things I'm looking at these days, and it hasn't floated up to the surface yet. It was certainly on my radar, and I don't think a 1080i presentation with compression issues is a deal breaker, but it sure isn't helping nudge me over the edge in front of anything FUNi or NIS is putting out. |
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First, I bought the Gintama movie and puzzled over some of the subtitled lines. When someone with one year of college-level Japanese can catch mistakes in subs, you know there's a problem...
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