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REVIEW: Clannad: The Motion Picture DVD


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rossGough



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:06 am Reply with quote
I have to say that I think zensunni nailed it. I completely agree with the points you made and love the anime for what it has done compared to the film.

Claiming it has a 'cop-out' ending really does just prove that you're not understanding the story, and what is trying to be told.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:57 pm Reply with quote
grooven wrote:
As always the Anime version is not a cop out the reasoning wasn't fleshed out for non game players.


rossGough wrote:
Claiming it has a 'cop-out' ending really does just prove that you're not understanding the story, and what is trying to be told.


Now this is starting to irritate me. Just because the ending of the TV series adheres closely to what happened in the visual novels does not mean it's not a cop-out. Just because the series failed to explain adequately what was clearer in the VN does not exempt it from being a cop-out. Just because the gimmick the ending pulls is carefully justified by what goes on in the series (a point that I dispute anyway) does not mean it isn't a cop-out. However you want to justify it, the simple truth is that the TV series wrote itself into a corner which required an unhappy ending and then said, "oh! This is just one possible way things could turn out, but this is what really happens." That's a cop-out any way you look at it. I don't like it when other series pull stunts like that, as they are rarely justified well (My-HiME is another example of this being done poorly, while Serial Experiment Lain is one of the few series which actually managed to pull it off), and what the series does here doesn't justify it well enough. It is a kind of wish fulfillment scheme that the story resorts to when it's unwilling to face the harsher consequence of what the story has wrought. That it sets this up long in advance doesn't change its nature.

zensunni wrote:
I know the nit about the names of Fūko and Mei has already been picked, but I have to say that things like that really decrease my respect for a review. If the reviewer can’t even take the time to open up a page on the web-site that they work for and check the names of the characters they are talking about in the review, it makes me feel that they are probably not taking the time to really think about the show they are reviewing either. I’m not saying that is what is going on here, but that is what those types of errors do to my perception of a review.


Don't mince words; based on your other comments in the source post, that's exactly what you're saying. It really doesn't bother me when people call me out for typos like this - the gods know that this is hardly the first time that I've mistyped a name even after reading it directly from a cast list - but extending that by saying that a typo implies that I'm not taking the title seriously is raising that to a whole 'nother level. That I have watched every single minute of Clannad content that has been released, and have sought out rentals or purchased copies for more than half of it so I could do the reviews, should be a good indicator of how seriously I took the subject matter.
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treatment



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:41 pm Reply with quote
zensunni wrote:


The main problem I have with the movie though, is its treatment of depression. The movie removes the majority of the story and replaces it with an "intervention" by a group of concerned friends and "recovery" of Tomoya from major depression is entirely unrealistic and poorly done. I really don't like what the movie did to the Tomoya character.


Excuse me?

What exactly was unrealistic and poorly done about it in the movie again?

Let me try to parse what you posted:

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. It changes him from a flawed, but strong and capable character
== idealistic.

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to a person unable to overcome his depression and unable to even continue working.
== realistic.

There.

Maybe what you wrote just doesn't mean what you think it means...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:15 pm Reply with quote
While I could go on forever ragging on this movie, I have to wonder why you guys missed the fact that the movie implied that spoiler[Tomoya and Nagisa has sex out of wedlock.][/spoiler]
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