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CCTakato
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I'm very bothered by the number of people in this thread insisting that if you're uncomfortable watching an anime with a convicted voice artist, that you should suck it up and agree with them on how to experience watching the anime. There is this thing on most anime DVDs and BDs these days called the Japanese audio track that you can use if you feel uncomfortable watching something with this guy in the dub. It's not like the anime industry is overrun with convicted offenders for me to "get used to it" if I just happen to avoid this one guy who only had major roles in a bunch of shows I don't care about. But if I feel too uncomfortable watching the English dub of Psycho Pass because of him that I prefer to watch the Japanese version from now on, I don't see why I need to force myself to "get used to it" to satisfy some other geek's ideals of how to experience anime. It's like if I feel uncomfortable watching Mel Gibson movies or Bill Cosby TV shows, I shouldn't have to force myself to watch something that stars a horrible person just because you might be comfortable with it.
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BringBackUzume
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I my mind, I'm glad Funimation have cut ties with Mr. Freeman. I liked his performances and I'm still going to enjoy them. No one plays Bickslow as well as he did, but that doesn't mean I condone his behavior. I'm glad he's paying for his crime and is where he belongs.
This reminds me of the Michael Jackson controversey. Was he a pedophile? I don't know, and I don't care. If he was, he still had great music that I can enjoy. If he wasn't, well good for him. Either way, I've seperated the artist from their art and that's all that matters to me. |
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Lili-Hime
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I totally agree. Some people can move past it, some people can't. It's not a personal failing to not stand an actor/musician/director once you find out something about them you're not comfortable with. I don't want to cite specific examples so that we don't get sidetracked, but there are directors/writers whose movies I can't watch because I keep seeing their toxic personal views keep leaking into their work. I mean on the whole, I don't think ANY of us are going to be able to watch the Cosby Show the same way we used to (or look at the Jared from Subway commercials the same). For me it's more about the content of the work. I cannot stand rape or sexualized violence, it makes me physically ill. I can understand if someone has that reaction when they see or hear someone they know are guilty of things that (for lack of a better word) trigger them. Last edited by Lili-Hime on Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:13 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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CCTakato
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It's fine if you if can separate the voice actor from the actor, but can we please stop turning this thread into a bragging competition about who's the most comfortable watching a dub with a convicted VA in them? It's getting creepy.
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Errinundra
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And please talk about the topic and not each other. That will degenerate into a flame war.
Thanks. |
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Razor/Edge
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It would a lot easier to just lock the thread. At this point, one comment could spin it spiraling out of control. There are times when there is nothing wrong with locking a thread if it's subject is of a sensitive nature. It would be a lot less work than monitoring this thing 24/7 and I really don't see anything good coming of letting this continue. It's already about crossed a line and in danger of going a mile over it. |
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anifani
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This may get some backlash.... In fact I'll probably get chastised for this, but am I the only one that thinks that this thread is so hypocritical since I am looking at new releases by Funimation (Daimidaler, etc.) that are full of panty shots, naked transformations, and other suggestive fanservice? In many series, the characters are 1st or 2nd year high school students...usually under 16. Yes, unfortunately, Scott took it too far and is paying the price.
As an adult female with young children of my own, I can't help but feel that if the Internet wasn't around, Scott may have never turned to the path he did. The whole situation is just sad. Regarding the subject; I will have no problem watching Attack on Titan, Chrome Shelled Regios, and other anime where he was one of the voice actors as I tend to get wrapped up in the show not the voices. |
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Aura Ichadora
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Honestly there's only three series I watch that he has a large(r) role in: Fairy Tail, Hetalia, and Michiko & Hatchin. And in both Fairy Tail and M&H, I had to actually look it up to make sure it was even him.
 Hetalia is the only series that I'm curious about with a recast (since obviously M&H is already done and Bixlow is a minor character in the grand scheme of things that if his voice actor changed I doubt I'd even notice... again).
That being said, I have no plans to stop watching any of these shows dubbed as - as stated by several others already - his performances are completely separate from his personal life. Plus, I'd feel like if I stopped watching the dub just because of one person, I'd be doing a disservice to myself and to everyone else that worked on the dub, and that really wouldn't be fair. |
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ninjaquick
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This guy is a person, he's made a mistake. Should his previous work be discarded? No.
The reason a company like funi removed him from staff should be: Negative brand impact - not: He's a monster/pedophile/has personal issues that never affected work but are highly unacceptable, even though he is not personally a threat to the fellow workers, their families or society at large. |
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Errinundra
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I removed an unneeded link and snark directed at other posters. I can't agree with your implied argument that profit is more important than ethics. I also can't agree that he isn't a threat. Indirectly he is: by creating a demand for child pornography he is supporting an activity that abuses children. (Though, granted, he shouldn't be a threat in prison.) @ Razor/Edge, If it does, we will. @ anifani, I can see your point, and you needn't be chastised for it. If our posts are genuine and polite there shouldn't be a problem. |
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whiskeyii
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Mostly agree on this point. It also helps that of the shows I watched dubbed, he is only in very minor roles in two series total (Attack on Titan and Romeo x Juliet). If, however, I was watching a show where he had a starring or just more prominent role (not sure if he's a main in Hetalia, but Highschool DxD for sure), I think I'd wrestle with this more. I usually don't have an issue separating someone's product/performance from their person, except in cases where the crimes are no longer victimless, unlike the situation with the On Your Mark guy, who's actions arguably harmed no one but himself. But if you personally feel the need to distance yourself from any and all works involving Scott Freeman, by all means do so. Those are YOUR personal boundaries, not anyone else's. You do you. |
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TarsTarkas
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I disagree. This is what moderation and banning is for. Punishing everyone for the actions of a few is bad policy. If a person is banned they are unable to be a problem anymore. |
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Actar
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I can't disagree with this more. As an advocate of freedom of speech, we shouldn't really censor an exchange of ideas that deal with sensitive issues. While I can definitely sympathize and empathize with people who have had painful personal experiences (believe me I have my own fair share), shouldn't the onus be on them to avoid the threads or content that deal with the matter as oppose to calling for censorship? I guess there is a very fine line between being sensitive and self-censoring. In this PC world, I really hope that we can still find a way to have open conversation that doesn't hurt anyone, but it is difficult. |
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CCTakato
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Errinundra
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Again, I removed criticisms (implied or otherwise) directed at other posters.
No, no and no. The aim of ANN is to make people welcome. The onus is on each poster to be be polite and respectful so that people don't need to avoid threads. Now I'm getting off-topic. Apologies. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for a while yet ->  .
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