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Crunky
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Because you said something incredibly stupid and it came back to bite you.
I love how you're quick to go into ratings to MHA yet ignore it to Boruto, didn't even get a boost in manga sales either.
Yeah because people like the Naruto brand it has nothing to do with Boruto specifically.
The revenue for China streaming is not as lucrative as you're exaggerating. Twin Star Exorcist still did not do well regardless how much you try to push its China streaming numbers.
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-05-14/japan-animation-tv-ranking-may-4-10/.88166 4.0 animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-05-22/japan-animation-tv-ranking-may-11-17/.88474 3.5 animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-08/japan-animation-tv-ranking-may-25-31/.89047 4.0 animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-25/japan-animation-tv-ranking-june-8-14/.89495 4.5 animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-27/japan-animation-tv-ranking-june-15-21/.89718 3.5 animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-09/japan-animation-tv-ranking-june-29-july-5/.90270 3.0 animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-16/japan-animation-tv-ranking-july-6-12/.90542 3.9 (and this is where it started bringing Conan's ratings down) animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-23/japan-animation-tv-ranking-july-13-19/.90824 3.9 animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-08-06/japan-animation-tv-ranking-july-27-august-2/.91383 3.6 So as you can see the thresholds were no different from the the ones we have now animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-08-13/japan-animation-tv-ranking-august-3-9/.91639 And this was the last time UOT ranked in the top 10 until it ended in September. So no high threshold it just didn't do well at all
Except Gundam 00, Nanatsu no Taizai, Yamato 2199, both seasons of Magi, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, Arslan Senki,Blue Exorcist , Hakyuu, Code Geass R2 and Gundam AGE all had higher averages than it.
Nice try but that is not only the wrong way to go about averages because you're only counting for half the show's run which is incomplete information.
They're not relevant because they're 3 years old and negates the fact that studios such as TMS which has been operating for years and A-1 who is just a subsidiary of Aniplex no different from Sunrise and the fact that Tatsunoko was bought by I.G. which saved them from going under.
Its not irrelevant because its shows that they're making revenue. BONES has been in the red for years which has little to do with their shows not selling and them suffering a loss (the failure of Captain Earth and Space Dandy didn't even effect them) but back taxes accumulated through the years when the studio form and they're not the only studio effected by this. |
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Pierrot.
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Nothing bit me back and I even agreed it will get a sequel months ago. No need to sound like a jackass mate.
Because Boruto and Naruto stopped relying on TV ratings ages ago. I'll ignore it for MHA too when it becomes a mega franchise.
Hilarious considering Boruto's movie is one of the most successful in the franchise in terms of both box office performance and BD/DVD sales.
How many times do I have to prove you wrong? Anime Industry report 2014 "According to the report, the total market value of the anime industry in 2014 was 1.63 trillion yen (about US$13.5 billion), up about 10% from 2013's 1.49 trillion yen (about US$12.4 billion). The AJA attributes part of this success to merchandise and the sale of streaming rights in China. " Anime Industry Report 2015 "Last year, the AJA attributed part of the industry's success to the sale of streaming rights in China, and in 2013 the report noted an increase in anime-related events and exhibits. This year, the AJA reported a 78.7% rise in the sale of streaming rights in China and a 68.2% growth in the live events field" Can't wait to see you backpedal now.
Still not showing me the ratings for the unranked episodes of UOT. I won't be able to respond or believe what you say until you first show me the numbers.
And what's your point? Did I ever claim they didn't? I was only talking about MHA.
So are you seriously implying Sengoku Basara was more successful than IBO?
"They're no relevant because I said so!!!" You're gonna have to do better than that.
I like how you conveniently ignored the data for Kyoani one. I also like how you're intentionally ignore the part where I asked you to provide some evidence when you claimed all the studios besides Sunrise and Toei are in the red. If you're going to ignore and not provide any evidence then don't bother responding because I sure won't waste my time here arguing with someone so thick.
So did Madhouse in 2008, 2009 and 2010. I'm sure you already know what happened in the next year. Madhouse Source: http://ke.kabupro.jp/tsp/20110208/140120110208030989.pdf Capital -> 1,420,000,000 Yen Year -> 2010(end July 31) Sales: 2008 -> 4,469,000,000 Yen 2009 -> 5,249,000,000 Yen 2010 -> 3,605,000,000 Yen Operating Income: 2008 -> *,*93,000,000 Yen 2009 -> *,121,000,000 Yen 2010 -> *,*88,000,000 Yen Ordinary Income: 2008 -> *,221,000,000 Yen 2009 -> *,143,000,000 Yen 2010 -> *,**2,000,000 Yen Net Income: 2008 -> +*,*69,000,000 Yen 2009 -> -1,170,000,000 Yen 2010 -> -2,083,000,000 Yen Total Assets -> 2,900,000,000 Yen
I'll respond once you give source to all of this. I don't give a damn about your anecdotal bullshit. |
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Crunky
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Trust me you've already taken credit for that. And good job once again ignoring your entire comment to make yourself feel less stupid.
Good job pulling this out your butt
Could be the fact that it was the last canon story in the franchise featuring the cast as older and wiser adults. Nah people just watched it to see his bratty son I mean look how well the anime is currently doing.
How many times do you have to make yourself look dumb? That shows how much revenue its making IN CHINA not how much revenue its returning in Japan worse yet it only accounts to one website not Chinese streaming as a whole so you're just quoting information you can't even understand.
Well continue to wait because I just proved you wrong yet again about the thresholds being high so you don't really have a leg to stand on anymore but thank you so much for proving that you actually didn't know what UOT average ratings percentile was and instead was just going off in complete information. Much like you quoting a source on Chinese streaming you're once again making a false claim you have no idea what you're talking about
You're wrong. Stop making claims and then act like a fool whenever someone points it out. >Did MHA do badly on Nichigo No it didn't >Was its ratings the reason why the block ended No it wasn't There. Simple. You don't have to constantly make excuses in order to move goal posts
12,952 Sengoku Basara 2 9,932 Kidou Senshi Gundam Tekketsu no Orphans Not only did Sengoku Basara 2 get better ratings it actually sold more as well so yeah I could easily say it was more successful. You're not making this fun anymore. Seriously would it kill you to research your claims instead of spouting garbage all the time like you always do?
You're right! Its relevant because YOU say so even though it data is virtually worthless to use under any relevance and is missing key information...but BONES is going under any day now! This information from 2014 says so!
I'm not sure a guy who's using dated information as an argument should be saying this. Even in the information you provided all those studios have low profit margins but if you actually read the stuff you post you would have realized it by now.
Not only are those profit margins much lower it was public knowledge that Madhouse wasn't doing well before NTV bought them out and last time I checked BONE's "financial troubles" isn't making headlines in the same way and hasn't prevented them from making projects like it did Madhouse. So yeah unless you can give me "relevant" information that applies to "now" and aren't just ripping articles from Japanese wikipedia I suggest you stop posting. |
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relyat08
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"some". I reserve the right to determine how broad that goes, and clearly my definition is more broad than yours. All of those shows were very successful world-wide. With the exception of maybe Show By Rock, which is surely much more popular in Japan.
A studio with a good success ratio could totally have a negative net income. Especially if the few flops they have happen to be originals that they had a significant stake in, while their greatest successes were adaptations that they didn't have much financial stake in. You know, like Bones.. |
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Pierrot.
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No I don't trust you at all. I wasn't the one calling people out here nor was I the one who started to act like an ass like you are.
Literally what you've been doing so far.
The movie didn't even focus on the older cast and it had better reviews then the previous canon movie featuring the main cast.
Yeah look at how it's consistently ranking so high. Definitely not watching it to see the bratty kid /s Hulu Japan ranking. Source: https://mainichi.jp/articles/20170518/dyo/00m/200/019000c Top 10 in April: 1. Gintama 2. The Laughing Salesman New 3. Detective Conan 4. BORUTO 5. HUNTER × HUNTER 6. Anpanman 7. Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt 8. Attack on Titan 9. Yokai Watch 10.Pokemon Sun & Moon Hulu Japan ranking. Source:https://mainichi.jp/articles/20170608/dyo/00m/200/018000c Top 10 in May: 1. Detective Conan 2. Boruto 3. The Laughing Salesman New 4. The Laughing Salesman 5. Gintama 6. Anpanman 7. HUNTER X HUNTER 8. Kingdom 9. Eromanga Sensei 10.Berserk Hulu Japan ranking. Source:https://mainichi.jp/articles/20170713/dyo/00m/200/016000c Top 10 in June: 1. Boruto 2. Gintama 3. Detective Conan 4. Rurouni Kenshin: Meiji Kenkaku Romantan 5. Anpanman 6. My Hero Academia 7. Eromanga Sensei 8. Akashic Records of Bastard Magic Instructor 9. Kingdom 10. The Laughing Salesman Hulu Japan ranking. Source:https://mainichi.jp/articles/20170813/dyo/00m/200/004000c Top 10 in July: 1. Attack on Titan 2. Gintama 3. Boruto 4. Detective Conan 5. My Hero Academia 6. Anpanman 7. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 8. Tokyo Ghoul 9. Naruto 10.Clean Freak! Aoyama kun Hulu Japan ranking. Source:https://mainichi.jp/articles/20170913/dyo/00m/200/017000c Top 10 in August: 1. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure 2. Detective Conan 3. Boruto 4. Naruto Shippuden 5. My Hero Academia 6. Gintama 7. Anpanman 8. Tokyo Ghoul 9. Attack on Titan 10.Naruto
Wow you're so thick. That revenues isn't for China smartass because there's already a different one for China. "The Nikkei Asian Review reports the Chinese animation market is projected to reach 150 billion yuan (US$21.7 billion) this year, a figure three times its size in 2010 and also larger than the Japanese market. According to 2015 data from the Association of Japanese Animations, Chinese buyers account for more than half of the year-over-year increase in industry revenue generated from overseas anime license sales." "An executive with a Beijing affiliate of Dentsu, Japan's largest advertising agency and a major anime investor, explains in a recent report by The Wall Street Journal that the crackdown on piracy has shifted the landscape of China's anime market in a positive direction. Government enforcement of copyright laws has resulted in producers and licensors seeing increased animation sales. Reduction in piracy has made anime licenses more attractive to local buyers such as streaming sites Youku Tudou, Tencent Video, and Bilibili. The industry also benefits from the fact that streamed animation is not subject to the same quotas and content reviews put in place for foreign live-action films and television shows. At the same time, however, industry insiders warn this boom could end if Chinese media regulators decide to change their stance. License costs are also on the rise with increasing competition among video streaming sites. For example, The Wall Street Journal estimates that one episode of Gintama sells for approximately US$100,000. This is why Tencent and other media publishers are beginning to invest as joint stakeholders in Japanese productions in order to avoid bidding wars. At the same time, Tencent can also develop its own webcomic properties with Japanese talent not only for the enjoyment of Chinese audiences, but also for others." https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1615907 Next time read the damn article before you talk out of your ass.
... Yeah I knew you were just a troll trying to waste my time.
If you're using the BDs to gauge its success then why not use the data for toys sales too. Gundam makes most of it's sales from the models kits so don't even try to act it's not relevant.
"The data is worthless because it doesn't fit my narrative!!"
Lmao. Now you're putting words in my mouth? Go on. It's not like you've made a fool out of yourself enough.
Then why aren't you sharing the new data? Is it really that hard to link some data or do you prefer talking out of your ass all the time?
>140 million yen is net income is low Yeah this is how I know you're shitposting.
I think it's time you stopped putting words in my mouth because I never said Bones is in financial trouble or was. The only thing I said was that they didn't have a good success ratio just a few years ago. Here's the link to the said post. animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=4960447#4960447 The reason why I gave the Madhouse example in the first place is because you ignored the Net Income and pretended the revenue is the only thing that mattered. I'm starting to think you don't even know what it means.
Woah there buddy. The burden of proof is on you. Not me. I was the one who asked you to show me the information that applies to now since you called mine old and irrelevant. If you can't then sorry but the information I linked still apply. |
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Crunky
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And you're a history revisionist too.
Nah I can actually face reality and not using something as vague as "stream numbers" to judge the success of a show.
What? The entire plot of the movie was centered on the relationship between Naruto and Boruto was baited solely on seeing the cast deal with being parents hence why all the adverts was centered on Naruto and Sasuke as adults. You're really deluded if you thought that people went to see that movie for anything else.
Yeah its really pathetic how you can't accept reality yet you're highly critical of how MHA does rating rise
Once again does not show the amount made in China through streams and only covers one site. You really do not reading what you post.
You only quoted one episode ratings while ignoring the average as evidence and yet you call me the troll?
I don't think you could backpedal harder if you tried. But this is what people tend to do with egg on their faces
Nah its worthless in general. Now tell me how information from 3 years ago is irrelevant today? [quote] Then why aren't you sharing the new data? Is it really that hard to link some data or do you prefer talking out of your ass all the time?[.quote] Wait so you admit that information is worthless?
>14 million profit is high >But a 10 million profit is low I'm not sure if I sure take you seriously
So you used a studio with a lower profit margin and that publicly admitted that they were having finance issues as evidence for a studio that had neither? You're a smart one
What burden of proof? You're the one using old information and pushing it as if its relevant, anyone can see that its not the year 2014 so using that as a financial report for your argument is a pretty dumb thing to do boss. |
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Galap
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Ok, Crunky, stop being an ass. In fact, let's just call an end to this whole argument that's creating all these extremely long but sparse-in-content posts.
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